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  • KOffice 2.3.0 Office Suite Released

    Phoronix: KOffice 2.3.0 Office Suite Released

    While there is now the Calligra Suite following an internal KOffice fork by its developers, having been released today is KOffice 2.3.0 that includes the work leading up the formation of Calligra. KOffice 2.3 features include Krita being certified as ready for use by professional artists, better support for reading Microsoft Office files, a new report engine in KPlato and Kexi, and much more...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODk2NA

  • #2
    Calligra's first release will be version 2.4, as far as i know.

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    • #3
      It's good to see Krita is developed so rapidly!

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      • #4
        so i don't really get what the point is of koffice. why not just use open office? what does koffice offer that openoffice doesn't? if its for better kde integration then the developers could just spend their time working on openoffice instead and continue a program that has a lot more dedication, and is more completed.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
          so i don't really get what the point is of koffice. why not just use open office? what does koffice offer that openoffice doesn't? if its for better kde integration then the developers could just spend their time working on openoffice instead and continue a program that has a lot more dedication, and is more completed.
          Then ask to Open Office developers to speed up its start up time, memory footprint, fix its crappy VCL toolkit (http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/VCL_UI_Rework), and create a mobile / touch version (http://freoffice.blogspot.com/).

          Never investigated, but I'd bet it would be really difficult to do, if not impossible.

          Sometimes it's just better to start from scratch.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
            so i don't really get what the point is of koffice.
            It's a free office suite for the Unix desktop.

            why not just use open office?
            Because of maintainability, resource consumption, portability, and because people who are good at coding for KOffice would not be good at coding for OpenOffice.

            what does koffice offer that openoffice doesn't?
            It runs on netbooks and mobile phones, for example.

            if its for better kde integration then the developers could just spend their time working on openoffice instead and continue a program that has a lot more dedication, and is more completed.
            OpenOffice is an Oracle one-man-show. The ability to help as an outside contributor was always limited, and required a copyright transfer, if I'm not mistaken.

            We'll have to see how LibreOffice fares now that they've forked. OpenOffice is internally a horrible mess that only Sun/Oracle guys really understand.

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            • #7
              i suppose those are pretty good reasons but does it offer all, or most of the same features? i might even consider switching to it depending on how well its doing. i would say one of my main gripes about openoffice is how long it takes to start up and updates for it are pretty huge in file size (although compared to ms office, its tiny)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
                what does koffice offer that openoffice doesn't?
                forgot to mention:
                • a professional drawing application (Krita);
                • a good vector drawing application (Karbon), OpenOffice.org Draw is more for diagrams like Kivio;
                • a project / Gantt management application (KPlato);
                • an application to gather notes and ideas (Braindump, which will get into KOffice / Calligra distribution in 2.4, and already is based on it).

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
                  i suppose those are pretty good reasons but does it offer all, or most of the same features? i might even consider switching to it depending on how well its doing. i would say one of my main gripes about openoffice is how long it takes to start up and updates for it are pretty huge in file size (although compared to ms office, its tiny)
                  Well, as always, it depends. Krita, Kexi and Karbon are already pretty usable, other could be not suitable for average use. However progress is clear:
                  http://www.koffice.org/changelogs/ko...3-0-changelog/

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                  • #10
                    Koffice (or Caligra) does not have feature parity with OpenOffice, and probably never will.

                    If you need basic Office functionality, and don't need perfect import of MS formats, KOffice might be good for you. The main strengths of Koffice are excellent integration (embedding of spreadsheets and graphics, etc.), clean design and modest resource requirements.

                    OpenOffice looks like an alien on every operating system in the world, and is slow as molasses. Very featureful and mature, though.

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                    • #11
                      i wonder what they mean by "Krita being certified as ready for use by professional artists".

                      anyone an "artist" here, that can actually give some feedback on the "readiness"?

                      how it compares with gimp and ps? is it another mature alternative?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
                        Koffice (or Caligra) does not have feature parity with OpenOffice, and probably never will.

                        If you need basic Office functionality, and don't need perfect import of MS formats, KOffice might be good for you. The main strengths of Koffice are excellent integration (embedding of spreadsheets and graphics, etc.), clean design and modest resource requirements.

                        OpenOffice looks like an alien on every operating system in the world, and is slow as molasses. Very featureful and mature, though.
                        even openoffice i think has plenty of compatibility issues, but considering how mature it is, thats why i asked my question in the first place. considering koffice has a lot less developers, who are probably less dedicated and just the fact that koffice hasn't been around for as long (as far as i'm aware), i feel like koffice has no particular advantage other than the fact that its more lightweight.

                        i'm actually going to try it now. i'm very impressed by what the developers of kde have done, so i'd think koffice should be at least adequately satisfactory.

                        i'm not sure where you're getting the idea that openoffice looks alien, to me it works exactly like MS office 2003 and older. for a long while i preferred the way those programs were laid out, but office 2007 seems to be easier to use (although i find it much slower to navigate, and its a nightmare for resource consumption).

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by madjr View Post
                          i wonder what they mean by "Krita being certified as ready for use by professional artists".

                          anyone an "artist" here, that can actually give some feedback on the "readiness"?

                          how it compares with gimp and ps? is it another mature alternative?
                          Krita is not exactly a replacement for GIMP or Photoshop. While GIMP and Photoshop are primarily image manipulation programs (for photo editing, and the like), Krita is more of a painting program, for artists to create completely new images.

                          Of course, there is plenty of overlap, and Krita works well for photos. I don't know how well it compares to other programs, but I hear that it's not bad. Probably has fewer filters than GIMP or PS, though.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
                            even openoffice i think has plenty of compatibility issues, but considering how mature it is, thats why i asked my question in the first place. considering koffice has a lot less developers, who are probably less dedicated and just the fact that koffice hasn't been around for as long (as far as i'm aware), i feel like koffice has no particular advantage other than the fact that its more lightweight.
                            KOffice is older than OpenOffice, and is in fact the first complete Open Source office suite.

                            StarOffice (which later got opensourced and called OpenOffice) is older, though.

                            KOffice struggles, and has always struggled, due to the lack of active developers. The cleaner code and ease of development make up for much of it, though.

                            i'm not sure where you're getting the idea that openoffice looks alien, to me it works exactly like MS office 2003 and older. for a long while i preferred the way those programs were laid out, but office 2007 seems to be easier to use (although i find it much slower to navigate, and its a nightmare for resource consumption).
                            It doesn't use the native toolkit on any platform, and the native integration (using Qt or GTK or Carbon for painting) is not perfect. It uses its own file dialogs, and doesn't follow any system's HIG.

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                            • #15
                              Spell Checker

                              Kword have a spell checker yet?

                              Who uses Krita? Everybody uses Gimp. It predates KDE.




                              Google tags: KDE Developers eat your own dogfood.

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