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    Phoronix: Ubuntu 11.04 Desktop To Get Rid Of GNOME's Shell

    While GNOME 3.0 is expected to roll out in March and will boast the brand new GNOME Shell interface with the Mutter compositing window manager, this will not appear by default in the Ubuntu desktop. Certainly not in Ubuntu 11.04 and it doesn't look like it will be used at all in the future by default (granted, you'll be able to install the shell from a package repository). It's just been announced that beginning with Ubuntu 11.04, the desktop spin will begin using the Unity shell that Canonical originally developed for netbooks...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODcxNA

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    WOW. That is some news to report. Who is using the Unity? what are the reviews on that thing?

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    • #3
      Oh great... that will surely put off a lot of users if it ends being as "good" as the current Unity.

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      • #4
        @Beiruty
        Exactly, is it all simply because of touch capabilities?
        I'd like to see a list of user/technical features that are present in Unity and lack in Gnome Shell that contributed to this decision.
        I'm concerned cause to me Ubuntu's own implementation of notifications is actually worse, same about their system tray applet, so I'm afraid their Unity will be also worse than Gnome's Shell in exchange of cool-sounding-features that are in reality not worth it.

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        • #5
          (Damn, Phoronix's crappy edit rules)

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          • #6
            April 1st already?

            I've heard nothing but complaints (mostly about speed) from people that have tried Unity. Now I have even more reason to recommend Kubuntu instead.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Beiruty View Post
              WOW. That is some news to report. Who is using the Unity? what are the reviews on that thing?
              I haven't tried it since 10.10 RC1 (though I left the release ISO downloading at home as the new SSD for my netbook just turned up in the mail) but at that time Unity was unfinished and buggy as heck. But it does look like an interesting idea with potential, so hopefully six months will be enough for them to make it usable.

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              • #8
                I upgraded netbook from 10.04 to 10.10 and Unity is so bad I log in to the normal gnome environment now. I was not able to find any way to customize it. I don't mean anything tricky, I mean I couldn't find the settings pane, I couldn't add apps, move apps, or anything. Plus the left side bar, though good in theory on a screen with limited vertical, doesn't work in practice. Too many websites are designed for a minimum of 1024, and losing 50 pixels makes them scroll.

                Unity is making me rethink running Ubuntu at all. They consistently make decisions based on "this will be good in 3 versions" rather than "this is the best right now". Sure, work on the new and improved, but ship the one that actually works.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 3vi1 View Post
                  April 1st already?

                  I've heard nothing but complaints (mostly about speed) from people that have tried Unity. Now I have even more reason to recommend Kubuntu instead.
                  Why the hell would you do that?! Kubuntu is packaged even worse than Ubuntu.
                  For KDE at least use SUSE

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                  • #10
                    If this isn't a april's fool and finally Ubuntu make this move I will move to Fedora or ArchLinux again...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Khudsa View Post
                      If this isn't a april's fool and finally Ubuntu make this move I will move to Fedora or ArchLinux again...
                      Or you could just install GNOME shell..

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by cl333r View Post
                        is it all simply because of touch capabilities?
                        After reading http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2010/10/17...admits-it.html I'm convinced that this move is solely because Canonical own full copyrights to Unity and can license it to OEMs in order to allow them to create proprietary variants (eg. unchangeable branding, forced ads, or so).

                        I doubt that Canonical on its own can produce a better shell than the entire GNOME community.

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                        • #13
                          Will there be no option for people who like Ubuntu/Gnome the way it is. Or will we all be forced to accept the desktops of the "future"?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DanL View Post
                            Or you could just install GNOME shell..
                            That could end up more difficult than it sounds. Canonical adopted new notification specs that Shell does not support. What if Canonical patches the GNOME apps in a way that they only send notifications using the new format? Users who opt for Shell would end up using a crippled environment.
                            Using a different distribution altogether would be a way to avoid that.

                            (Disclaimer: This is obviously pure speculation as no one has seen 11.04)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by KAMiKAZOW View Post
                              What if Canonical patches the GNOME apps in a way that they only send notifications using the new format?
                              they dont. their patches enable the use of their notification system if available - if not it falls back to gnome default.
                              If you dont want the ubuntu notifications you can simply replace their daemon with the default.

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