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  • #16
    Originally posted by yotambien View Post
    Uhm? & Uhmm?
    Gnash doesn't use a lot of CPU. So when you're watchng a YouTube video, for example, it works perfect. However if you fullscreen it it still uses the same amount of CPU, but the video starts stutter and the YouTube controls get unresponsive. This is on a AMD Phenom 9950 quadcore

    And YouTube blocking older crap like IE6 and older Flash versions.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Nille View Post
      which Video Acceleration? The R500 Cards support only Xv.
      Actually it does have Video Acceleration.

      The R5xx family introduced a more advanced onboard motion-video engine. Like the Radeon cards since the R100, the R5xx can offload almost the entire MPEG-1/2 video pipeline. The R5xx can also assist in Microsoft WMV9/VC-1 and MPEG H.264/AVC decoding, by a combination of the 3D/pipeline's shader-units and the motion-video engine. Benchmarks show only a modest decrease in CPU-utilization for VC-1 and H.264 playback.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_R520

      I hope someday to take advantage of that.

      Gallium 3D FTW?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
        Gnash doesn't use a lot of CPU. So when you're watchng a YouTube video, for example, it works perfect. However if you fullscreen it it still uses the same amount of CPU, but the video starts stutter and the YouTube controls get unresponsive. This is on a AMD Phenom 9950 quadcore

        And YouTube blocking older crap like IE6 and older Flash versions.
        Oh, I see. Your quotes around "fixed" confused me, I thought you were being sarcastic, as in "Gnash used to use a lot of CPU cycles, but they "fixed" it now, heh". But you actually meant that the CPU usage is constant, right? Which sounds...odd...and stupid on Gnash.

        That, plus the blocking thing you mention makes the "100% youtube compatibility" claim misleading to say the least.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by yotambien View Post
          Oh, I see. Your quotes around "fixed" confused me, I thought you were being sarcastic, as in "Gnash used to use a lot of CPU cycles, but they "fixed" it now, heh". But you actually meant that the CPU usage is constant, right? Which sounds...odd...and stupid on Gnash.
          Yeah I wanted to type something along the lines of 'fixed rate', but then I realized there is no such thing

          That, plus the blocking thing you mention makes the "100% youtube compatibility" claim misleading to say the least.
          Well it actually errors out, but I *think* it errors out becuase YouTube does test what Adobe Flash version you have and kicks you out or let you stream based on that info. YouTube only checks your Flash version on their own website and not when it's embedded on another site. I can't think of any other reason...

          I made a screen capture of it. It is a 20.7 MB ogv video, so it is pretty large. Uploaded it here in case anyone is interested:
          http://www.multiupload.com/IJAE31FJEW

          I suggest the direct download option as it is pretty fast and without the standard crap.

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          • #20
            Random number generator

            Just installed gnash 0.8.8-1 and konqueror and mozilla plugins from debian/experimantal (x86 installation). Atleast youtube works on firefox, doesn't seem to work on konqueror. Might work though, maybe something about having gnash loaded in firefox first, don't know.

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            • #21
              @AC,
              Tried to simply enable the plugin in the Konqueror settings? I'm using Rekonq BTW. It doesn't realy work in Konqueror. And Konqueror without Webkit sucks anyway :')

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              • #22
                Hm, it works for me only for embedded YouTube videos, but it's buggy as hell. Not working on YouTube, says "An error occurred...". Well, I guess I hoped to soon.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by pejakm View Post
                  Hm, it works for me only for embedded YouTube videos, but it's buggy as hell. Not working on YouTube, says "An error occurred...". Well, I guess I hoped to soon.
                  Well... you can always use this greasemonkey's (firefox addon) script to play youtube video, although it's kinda laggy in fullscreen, at least for me.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Vi0L0 View Post
                    Well... you can always use this greasemonkey's (firefox addon) script to play youtube video, although it's kinda laggy in fullscreen, at least for me.
                    Thanks, but I use either Opera or something KHTML based.

                    I find that lightspark (compiled from git) is better than Gnash, but video controls on YouTube are screwed. Well, still waiting for the savior...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by pejakm View Post
                      Hm, it works for me only for embedded YouTube videos, but it's buggy as hell. Not working on YouTube, says "An error occurred...". Well, I guess I hoped to soon.
                      You need to remove Youtube's cookies. Check this post for more http://gnashdev.org/?q=node/77

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by blindfrog View Post
                        You need to remove Youtube's cookies. Check this post for more http://gnashdev.org/?q=node/77
                        Epic! Thanks!

                        And another piece of closed source gets eliminated from the Linux desktop!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by blindfrog View Post
                          You need to remove Youtube's cookies. Check this post for more http://gnashdev.org/?q=node/77
                          Thanks. I was having this issue in Chromium, but not in Firefox.

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                          • #28
                            Thanks, blindfrog, now working in Opera, too.

                            But for me, gnash is still a no-go in a terms of processor power. And I wont buy a new quad core processor just to be able to play YouTube videos. Lightspark does a great job here, my good ol' Prescott 2.4 GHz handles very well flash videos and sites (performance is a lot better than with the Adobe's plugin). Since I was waiting long time for flash OS alternative, well, what a heck, I'll wait a bit more until Lightspark polishes out.

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                            • #29
                              I use webm in opera/chrome. I just noticed the webm filter on youtube. Honestly, I could care less about gnash/lightspark. webm works fantastically.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by snuwoods View Post
                                I use webm in opera/chrome. I just noticed the webm filter on youtube. Honestly, I could care less about gnash/lightspark. webm works fantastically.
                                I used to use it, too, but still, for some videos you have to have flash enabled browser. Plus, webm technology isn't yet mature enough for everyday use, for I had some problems and glitches, minor, but big enough to fall back to flash, after all.

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