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  • #16
    75% of the linux desktop
    ...is a made-up number. Ubuntu people typically do not mess with user agents.

    The situation with Linux has typically been that the people who write the code make decisions about what is used.

    This disqualifies Ubuntu.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Veerappan View Post
      On Topic: It would be nice if Adobe would just pick one and run with it. If they can manage to get Flash running on VA-API, I think that would be the ideal situation. It would give them Nvidia compatibility, intel, ?VIA?, and ATI. Anyone else can feel free to implement their own backend.
      I wish people would quit it with this claim. VA-API is missing the features necessary to get tear-free, audio-synced frame presentation (the 'P' in VDPAU). A VA-API wrapper on top of VDPAU loses one of VDPAU's biggest features.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by md1032 View Post
        VA-API is missing the features necessary to get tear-free, audio-synced frame presentation (the 'P' in VDPAU).
        Uhm, it's not like the presentation queue is THAT much of a must-have, it can be easily emulated.
        Also, Flash won't use it at all. Flash's hardware acceleration is similar to VLC's.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Tares View Post
          I would be more happy for a fully working native 64bit version instead of youtube gpu acceleration.
          In the light of the recent events I just decided to install a 32bit Firefox so I can run the 32bit Flash properly. Working perfect on my 64bit Fedora.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by nanonyme View Post
            In the light of the recent events I just decided to install a 32bit Firefox so I can run the 32bit Flash properly. Working perfect on my 64bit Fedora.
            Yeah, I ended up doing the same thing, except with Chrome. Works fine on 64-bit Fedora, assuming you install a couple extra dependencies that the Chrome RPM apparently doesn't require even though the binary certainly does. (May be fixed in newer RPMs from Google, dunno.)

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            • #21
              News-flash.. x86-64 ? Oh, right, more bits than Adobe can handle. Even if Flash won't be gone in a flash, at least it'll die a slow death.

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              • #22
                is it any wonder when you can find five different graphics driver for every model of every manufacturer in linux ? ....

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by elanthis View Post
                  Yeah, I ended up doing the same thing, except with Chrome. Works fine on 64-bit Fedora, assuming you install a couple extra dependencies that the Chrome RPM apparently doesn't require even though the binary certainly does. (May be fixed in newer RPMs from Google, dunno.)
                  Yeah, I had similar hilariousness trying to sort out deps for the 32bit Flash. I was rather surprised libcurl was among them.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by pedepy View Post
                    is it any wonder when you can find five different graphics driver for every model of every manufacturer in linux ? ....

                    Come on. It can't be that hard to implement all the same interfaces and use all the same libraries in 64bit as in 32bit. If they have to junk driver-specific implementations in Flash, they're obviously doing something wrong...

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                    • #25
                      Well, on the bright side, people interested testing the latest Firefox beta will find html5 video tag with both VP8 and theora are hardware accelerated on Linux with both 32 and 64 bit browsers. Mozilla's stated goal is to have html5 video tag with both WebM and theora outperform flash on all platforms for the 4.0 release.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Prescience500 View Post
                        Well, on the bright side, people interested testing the latest Firefox beta will find html5 video tag with both VP8 and theora are hardware accelerated on Linux with both 32 and 64 bit browsers.
                        Oh do please share where you find such capabilities listed.

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                        • #27
                          Never mind, read the notes, partial acceleration and just oGL acceleration.

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                          • #28
                            Adobe continues to amaze

                            They seem bent on proving that they don't need Apple's help in marginalizing their products.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Prescience500 View Post
                              Well, on the bright side, people interested testing the latest Firefox beta will find html5 video tag with both VP8 and theora are hardware accelerated on Linux with both 32 and 64 bit browsers. Mozilla's stated goal is to have html5 video tag with both WebM and theora outperform flash on all platforms for the 4.0 release.
                              I just installed the Firefox 4 Beta 3 just to test this, and playing back fullscreen youtube videos is slow as molasses here.

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                              • #30
                                Make sure you've enabled webm beta on youtube and that that particular video has been encoded. Otherwise, you'll be using flash. That being said, keep in mind that not only is Firefox 4 still in beta and unfinished, but so is youtube's webm implementation. There are known bugs with youtubes implementation causing this. If memory serves, a mozilla dev on bugzilla mentioned that google knows about the problem and are working on it. Another issue is if you set the quality to 720p or higher, it downloads slow because if I understand correctly (I'm making an educated guess here), google isn't allocating as much bandwidth for the webm beta as their flash video.

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