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  • #16
    Everyone is taking about flash for video.
    I'm really the one that plays flash games? Dozens of games are created everyday. We need an opensource flash player for preserving these pieces of art, in the same way programs like ScummVM preserve old DOS adventure games.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by d2kx View Post
      Also YouTube had a pretty okay-ish HTML5-Option running earlier this year but it wasn't updated and doesn't work reliable anymore
      Since embedding GNOME-MPlayer into YouTube the site works better than ever for me. Just be sure to chose Player: Generic in the prefs.

      Originally posted by tomm3h View Post
      OpenGL video acceleration? Wow, that was a great idea. Now why can't Adobe do that?!
      Because Adobe only employs people who have no skill, but a big mouth.
      Using OpenGL would also help under Mac OS X, but instead of just implementing it, looks for scapegoats all over the place.

      Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
      Did you know...
      ... that http://m.youtube.com doesn't use flash but a lightweight mpeg-like codec?
      YouTube Mobile uses normal MPEG-4 AVC for its videos not something like MPEG.

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      • #18
        Michael,

        Could you take a little time to test the various oss-flash alternatives to Adobe, from performance point of view but also compatibility (google maps, YouTube, Deezer, etc.)?

        This could be interesting to know which one can be the best to replace flash.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by KAMiKAZOW View Post
          YouTube Mobile uses normal MPEG-4 AVC for its videos not something like MPEG.
          I thought it used the 3GP file container format, hence the *.3gp , meaning the 3G Part, designed for mobile networks...

          MPEG-AVC is the h.264 container format... which is the 14 part...

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          • #20
            Originally posted by KAMiKAZOW View Post
            Install the "Youtube without Flash Auto" GreaseMonkey script and GNOME-MPlayer's Mozilla plugin.
            Flash-free YouTube rocks.
            Does the video start playing immediately or you have to wait for the download to finish?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Fixxer_Linux View Post
              Michael,

              Could you take a little time to test the various oss-flash alternatives to Adobe, from performance point of view but also compatibility (google maps, YouTube, Deezer, etc.)?

              This could be interesting to know which one can be the best to replace flash.
              There's really only (AFAIK) Lightspark and Gnash, and Lightspark is way to early to be anywhere near complete enough for such a comparison.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by whizse View Post
                There's really only (AFAIK) Lightspark and Gnash, and Lightspark is way to early to be anywhere near complete enough for such a comparison.
                ..as opposed to Gnash?

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                • #23
                  Well, it's at least a lot more complete.

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                  • #24
                    So rather than doing your flamewars, has anybody actually tried that thing (I know, crazy idea...).

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by whizse View Post
                      Well, it's at least a lot more complete.
                      From the writeup, it looks like Gnash is "mostly complete" for ActionScript 2, with no real ActionScript 3 support. LightSpark is "mostly complete" for ActionScript 3, but does not handle previous versions at all.

                      This would make it very difficult to compare the two for performance or compatibility, as no SWF files would even try to run under both of them.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by not.sure View Post
                        So rather than doing your flamewars, has anybody actually tried that thing (I know, crazy idea...).
                        I wanted to, but the ppa has packages only for lucid

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                          I thought it used the 3GP file container format, hence the *.3gp , meaning the 3G Part, designed for mobile networks...

                          MPEG-AVC is the h.264 container format... which is the 14 part...
                          AVC is merely another name for h.264. AVC is the name used by the MPEG consortium, while h.264 is the name for the same thing by ITU-T.

                          The 3GP container format is an implementation of MPEG-4 Part 12.
                          3GP uses AVC and AAC.

                          Originally posted by yotambien View Post
                          Does the video start playing immediately or you have to wait for the download to finish?
                          GNOME-MPlayer fills the buffer first which is set to 2MB by default. You can decrease the buffer size to achieve immediate playback.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by KAMiKAZOW View Post
                            GNOME-MPlayer fills the buffer first which is set to 2MB by default. You can decrease the buffer size to achieve immediate playback.
                            Ah, that's cool. I asked because it wasn't any clear what the script does from the website.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by MaestroMaus View Post
                              Be fair now, it does a lot of useful things and there are a lot of replacements being build right now. Yeah sure, it doesn't do the the useful things very efficient but guess what? You got to row with paddles you have.

                              Stop complaining and start doing something productive for the OS community if it is so dear to you.
                              Name ONE useful thing that it does.
                              I dare you.
                              Fact is that it doesn't do a SINGLE USEFUL THING.
                              It is pointless bloat.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Pfanne View Post
                                the new html5 player works great, but you dont have the option for hd videos plus at random times you will still get the old or the new flashplayer and not the html5 one.
                                Contrary to the "new video" feature of html5, you DO NOT NEED html5 to embed video directly in web pages. You just need to throw your video into an <embed> tag and its done! ANY sensible browser with a video player plugin will be happy with that!

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