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    Phoronix: Skype Open-Source Update Expected Soon

    Back in November there was an official announcement from Skype concerning an open-source Linux client. Details since then have been scarce on what exactly Skype plans to provide as open-source software, with some speculating just the user-interface/front-end side will be opened up. Skype though has continued in recent months of providing new Linux betas of their closed-source Linux client that still has yet to reach a feature parity with the Skype Windows client. No open-source Skype news updates have come since their original blog-style announcement...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODExMA

  • #2
    No open protocol, no party.
    IAX2 is simply better.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by darkbasic View Post
      No open protocol, no party.
      IAX2 is simply better.
      Exactly, who cares of an open-source GUI? In my opinion, it's more of an out-sourcing operation, rather than an open-sourcing one.

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      • #4
        being pessimistic, i can imagine this announcement going like this

        "we were joking. sorry"

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        • #5
          Originally posted by darkbasic View Post
          No open protocol, no party.
          IAX2 is simply better.
          Any video enabled clients you can suggest?

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          • #6
            Doesn't Skype contain a implementation of On2's VP7?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by r1348 View Post
              Exactly, who cares of an open-source GUI? In my opinion, it's more of an out-sourcing operation, rather than an open-sourcing one.
              It depends how much of the skype system you have access to. One obvious benefit would be the ability to merge Skype into the multi-protocol chat and instant messaging programs (e.g. Pidgin, Empathy, Kopete), to integrate your skype contacts with your desktop contacts managers (e.g. Kmail, Evolution). The Maemo version does some of this already, but it's not

              Ok, a full open spec protocol would be nice, but failing that, a properly documented library which can be linked against would be better than nothing, as it would offer some improvements to the system, AND these improvements wouldn't be limited to the Linux desktops

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              • #8
                Originally posted by tmpdir View Post
                Any video enabled clients you can suggest?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RobbieAB View Post
                  It depends how much of the skype system you have access to. One obvious benefit would be the ability to merge Skype into the multi-protocol chat and instant messaging programs (e.g. Pidgin, Empathy, Kopete), to integrate your skype contacts with your desktop contacts managers (e.g. Kmail, Evolution). The Maemo version does some of this already, but it's not

                  Ok, a full open spec protocol would be nice, but failing that, a properly documented library which can be linked against would be better than nothing, as it would offer some improvements to the system, AND these improvements wouldn't be limited to the Linux desktops
                  On the other hand, this will give Skype the opportunity of wholehandedly drop linux support, claiming that "the community" will take care of it.
                  And well, to be honest the last thing linux needs is another nasty, smelly binary blob in its infrastructure.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by r1348 View Post
                    On the other hand, this will give Skype the opportunity of wholehandedly drop linux support, claiming that "the community" will take care of it.
                    And well, to be honest the last thing linux needs is another nasty, smelly binary blob in its infrastructure.
                    Skype already is a smelly blob in the infrastructure

                    It won't let Skype drop linux support, it will let Skype drop Linux GUI support. Whether this is a good thing or not depends on how they play it. As I said, if they provide a decent library to talk to their network, I find it hard to believe that the major desktops won't integrate that support into their messaging apps.

                    Having seen how Skype integrates on the Nokia N900, I can honestly say it is much nicer than any skype I have seen on Windows, Mac OSX, or (PC) Linux. A back end protocol library leaving the actual GUI to the desktops would be the best way to achieve that short of a completely open protocol.

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                    • #11
                      Well from what I've heard, its gonna be opensourced GUI and a closed source daemon (yes, daemon, to make the reverse-engineering harder if it makes any sense), so we won't be forced to use their ugly GUI, just the ugly daemon. Not that I use it anyway.

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                      • #12
                        Fuck this shit. I'm tired of Skype being three different trees with nothing in common. We need an open-source libskype.

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                        • #13
                          Anybody still using skype anyway?? That's so 200x-ish.

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                          • #14
                            So are they going to apologize for the abuse?

                            I recall way back I was trying to get help to make Skype work on Linux - one of the Fedora distros, IIRC.

                            It was a really bad experience, as the distributed binaries had no alignment with the current state of Linux desktop OSes at the time - it was a choice between a non-working ALSA configuration, and a barely working OSS configuration.

                            At the conclusion of that thread (at which point I had really just given up), I mentioned that it was too bad they couldn't just open source the tool, so that the user community could take some of the responsibility for compatibility issues in non-supported environments.

                            Well...one of the Skype staff piped up and more or less reamed me out for even suggesting the idea. I guess he was sick of hearing about it...but he/she treated me like I was demanding they open source the software (as if I could have expected them to listen).

                            I think that was the last I ever bothered with their forums. It's nice that it works relatively trouble free now, but that experience really left me with a sour feeling towards the company.

                            Do I get an apology now? (yeah right)

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                            • #15
                              Skype is a nuisance, certainly.

                              But can anyone suggest an open-source client that allows you, as a Linux user, to communicate with Windows users, with both voice and video?

                              Empathy and Pidgin still only work with Linux-to-Linux in this respect, Qutecom and Ekiga are broken on Windows, and everything else is either too obscure and old, or supports voice only.

                              Seriously, if anyone can mention an open-source way of doing this, they will have my gratitude.

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