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  • #16
    Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
    Any signs of Mono infection yet?
    Koffice doesn't even want to support Microsoft Office files. I wouldn't count on it...

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    • #17
      Ah, ok. I guess the KDE Software Compilation is not for me then.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
        Ah, ok. I guess the KDE Software Compilation is not for me then.
        Like you would ever even consider dumping Gnome for the KDE SC Even if it had full mono, exchange and MS Office support

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        • #19
          Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
          Like you would ever even consider dumping Gnome for the KDE SC Even if it had full mono, exchange and MS Office support
          Honestly, I don't think there's any compelling reason to switch from the DE you are most familiar with right now (Gnome to KDE or vice versa). Functionality-wise, KDE and Gnome are pretty similar to each other, with the differences being mostly cosmetic. (Oops, now I've done it. Preemptive agreement: yes, Qt is like 100m times better than GTK, and no there's no comparison between KDESC's media player - I forget its name - and Rythmbox/Banshee and yes Gnome is infected with the Mono crap and we shouldn't use it ).

          I'm mostly interested if it is possible to use Qt from Mono in any meaningful way yet.
          Last edited by BlackStar; 12-22-2009, 04:42 AM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
            I'm mostly interested if it is possible to use Qt from Mono in any meaningful way yet.
            Look for Qyoto:
            http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Languages/Qyoto

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            • #21
              Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
              Koffice doesn't even want to support Microsoft Office files. I wouldn't count on it...
              Nokia does:
              http://www.koffice.org/news/nokia-an...s-for-koffice/

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              • #22
                Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                Koffice doesn't even want to support Microsoft Office files. I wouldn't count on it...
                Is that right? The first time I heard of Koffice was when I was looking for a lighter than OO office application. I only need it for when people send me documents in .doc, .ppt or whatever it is MS Office uses now, so I didn't want the full OO beast. Obviously Koffice was useless for me, but I thought it was just that the compatibility plugins were not done yet--as opposed to a matter of policy.


                EDIT: Ah! Just read Panda84's post. Don't you love it when somebody get the priorities straight? : )
                Last edited by yotambien; 12-22-2009, 05:08 AM.

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                • #23
                  Thanks, I'll give it a try. I thought Qyoto was dead, good to see it alive and in active development!

                  While I don't really like the fact that it uses a native layer, I don't think it's possible to wrap Qt otherwise...

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
                    KDE and Gnome are pretty similar to each other, with the differences being mostly cosmetic. (Oops, now I've done it. Preemptive agreement: yes, Qt is like 100m times better than GTK, and no there's no comparison between KDESC's media player - I forget its name - and Rythmbox/Banshee and yes Gnome is infected with the Mono crap and we shouldn't use it ).
                    Mostly cosmetic differences? Like I said - a Stockholm syndrome or fanboyism. You're attitude is being more trollish since every post.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by kraftman View Post
                      Mostly cosmetic differences?
                      Yes, but I won't try to argue the point. I've already agreed that Qt/KDE/KFoo applications are superior to GTK/Gnome/GBar offerings and nothing you can say can make me change my mind.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
                        Yes, but I won't try to argue the point.
                        Good, because it's very easy to point many differences which aren't cosmetic.

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                        • #27
                          I've upgraded today KDE SC 4.3.4 + QT 4.5.2 to 4.4 Beta 2 + QT 4.6.0 on my laptop at work and it's stability looks like 4.3.4. First impression is as it's a bit more responsive than 4.3.x. No desktop effects problems as some people said about Beta 1.

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                          • #28
                            Anyone knows whether Kubuntu 10.04 will ship with KDESC 4.4?

                            Originally posted by kraftman View Post
                            Good, because it's very easy to point many differences which aren't cosmetic.
                            You win.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
                              Anyone knows whether Kubuntu 10.04 will ship with KDESC 4.4?
                              They have no choice

                              It will:

                              http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/09/u...ucid-lynx.html

                              and

                              http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4-beta-1

                              The first beta of KDE SC 4.4 has packages available in our Beta PPA. Users of our latest development release, Lucid, can upgrade to the latest packages.
                              So it's already shipping it.
                              Last edited by kraftman; 12-22-2009, 07:14 AM.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
                                Honestly, I don't think there's any compelling reason to switch from the DE you are most familiar with right now (Gnome to KDE or vice versa). Functionality-wise, KDE and Gnome are pretty similar to each other, with the differences being mostly cosmetic. (Oops, now I've done it. Preemptive agreement: yes, Qt is like 100m times better than GTK, and no there's no comparison between KDESC's media player - I forget its name - and Rythmbox/Banshee and yes Gnome is infected with the Mono crap and we shouldn't use it ).
                                That's what I thought as well and used Gnome straight from 1999, but as curious by nature I decided to give KDE a try. The result? KDE is ahead in functionality and beauty from Gnome/OSX and windows7 and even much faster that the rest. But still Gnome is my first love, so I'll wait till 3.0 is out and then I'll give it a try. My major concern though, as a performance junkie, is the mono slowdown. I can not stand slowdowns at all.

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