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    Phoronix: Moonlight, Microsoft Patent Covenant Updates

    Just two days after Mono 2.6 was rolled out, which has been widely discussed within our forums, Miguel de Icaza has a few more Microsoft / Mono related announcements. Miguel this morning has announced that Moonlight 2.0 is complete, there is a new collaboration agreement between Microsoft and Novell to bring the Silverlight 3.0 and 4.0 feature sets to Moonlight, and Microsoft has updated its patent covenant that concerns Moonlight's distribution abilities. Moonlight 2.0 has been in beta for a few months and it implements most of Microsoft's Silverlight 2.0 functionality along with some early 3.0 features with regards to the pluggable pipeline, easing animation functions, partial out-of-browser support, writable bitmaps, and new data-binding features...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NzgxNg

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    You see guys? What did I say in my last post?

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    • #3
      Notably missing from that is Netflix. I wonder if this increased collaboration will include Netflix and the advanced media streaming required to support it, or if that is still off the table. I want to switch to use boxee with linux not windows.

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        @bulletxt
        MS knows that Mono will never going to compete really with moonlight and ofcourse will never produce innovation, so it's the best solution for them to play the good guy while benefit themselves and against FOSS.
        It is not collaboration at all but a different and tricky form of control and leadership.
        Last edited by Apopas; 12-17-2009, 02:26 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Apopas View Post
          @bulletxt
          MS knows that Mono will never going to compete really with moonlight and ofcourse will never produce innovation, so it's the best solution for them to play the good guy while benefit themselves and against FOSS.
          It is not collaboration at all but a different and tricky form of control and leadership.
          Same goes for AMD, INTEL and all the rest. And even Red Hat. They all do something to get money back. Where do you live? Do you belong to this universe? Wake up and smell the coffee my friend.

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            RedHat lives from Opensource and wants Linux to compete with any other OS and innovate rather than follow other's innovations while AMD and Intel cares for their hardware to work properly under Linux and for that they opened their drivers and specs to the community. Where do you see leadrship, control and hindering of innovation here? What does that have to do with microsoft? The first companies benefit from Linux while MS does not. Totally different goals via totally different ways.
            Last edited by Apopas; 12-17-2009, 03:31 PM.

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            • #7
              Ok, then I pray god your favourite website converts to silverlight and Microsoft wouldn't allow the existant of mono. Are you happy now? I am.
              I'm tired of bullshit.

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              • #8
                Fortunately though, there is no god...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bulletxt View Post
                  Same goes for AMD, INTEL and all the rest. And even Red Hat. They all do something to get money back. Where do you live? Do you belong to this universe? Wake up and smell the coffee my friend.
                  The difference is AMD, INTEL and Red Hat ARE Linux friendly, MS is not! I agree to what Apopas said. Except the part about God...

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                    Originally posted by kraftman View Post
                    I agree to what Apopas said. Except the part about God...
                    hehe pity

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                      Btw. I wouldn't believe in a single Icaza's word. He's pro MS fanboy who praises MS initiatives (or MS related) like one above or CodePlex and MS OOXML. He's not trustworthy.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Apopas View Post
                        hehe pity
                        Maybe he just disagrees that the absence of God is fortunate...

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                        • #13
                          First, learn the existance of idioms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiom .

                          Second, you haven't replied to my statement demonstrating the fanboyism that resides in you.

                          Third, kraftman defines AMD linux friendly. Go study some history from ~2007 and behond.

                          Fourth, there is nothing wrong in making money out of Linux. Linux is a kernel released under the GNU GPL licence. Nothing more nothing less. If microsoft somehow shares their "work" the only thing you can do is shut up and accept the cooperation, because that is what all gpl fans want, there is no statement in the GPL license about innovation, but freedom. Freedom to use the software for any reason you want, even to clean your back and flush the toilet. Mono is released under the GPL license and this should be the only thing to care of.

                          Fanboyism is the sick part of the Linux world.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by yesterday View Post
                            Maybe he just disagrees that the absence of God is fortunate...
                            I don't agree there's no God, but it's not on the topic.

                            @Bullettxt

                            Third, kraftman defines AMD linux friendly. Go study some history from ~2007 and behond.
                            Compared to MS they are Linux friendly.

                            Fourth, there is nothing wrong in making money out of Linux. Linux is a kernel released under the GNU GPL licence. Nothing more nothing less.
                            It's a kernel and it's also much more - Gnu/Linux for some, Linux distributions, philosophy etc.

                            If microsoft somehow shares their "work" the only thing you can do is shut up and accept the cooperation, because that is what all gpl fans want, there is no statement in the GPL license about innovation, but freedom. Freedom to use the software for any reason you want, even to clean your back and flush the toilet. Mono is released under the GPL license and this should be the only thing to care of.
                            Maybe there are some gpl fans who'll even buy MS trash if it's only released under GPL license, but there are also many people who use brains and don't buy such bull. I'd be happy if some morons wouldn't make Linux DE's (Gnome in this case) dependent on it. Make mono apps if you want, but don't force people to use/install/have it when they don't want this. If MS wants to make money on Linux it doesn't mean someone should help them doing this.

                            Fanboyism is the sick part of the Linux world.
                            It's also sick part of mono devs, its followers, ms world, apple world, gnome devs etc.
                            Last edited by kraftman; 12-17-2009, 05:24 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by bulletxt View Post
                              Fourth, there is nothing wrong in making money out of Linux.
                              Yup I agree. I make money out of Linux as well. So does RedHat etc. Even if MS wants to make money out of Linux I won't complain. If you undersstand that my complaints have to do about that while I didn't even mention it, then I can't do anything.

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