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  • #31
    Originally posted by kraftman View Post
    Like I said forget about Gimp and Krita, because both are slow when I choose bigger brush size and when I have compositing enabled
    Krita is going to be amazing very soon:

    Krita Team Seeking Sponsorship to Take Krita to Next Level

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    • #32
      Well this is just an early first impression, as I just installed the beta on my new testing-partition, but it looks and feels awesome. It's really snappy (well, that also might be due to me being used fglrx 9.3 from my main-partition and now using radeon on my testing-partition) and there are many littly subtle effects which add alot to the overall experience. For example the contents of tabs now crossfade when switching between them, and buttons have a nice glow-effect which also fades in and out. Konqueror also feels fast and snappy, maybe it will finally be able to replace firefox as my day to day browser.
      Overall I gotta say I'm really impressed with KDE SC 4.4.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Apopas View Post
        I hope only to log out quicker than 4.3
        i find my slow logout problem only to be the stupidly long sound effect causing system to block until it finished playing... I requested it be removed or (shortened to a blurp) but no-one reads my bug reports.. other then that it's vary fast.

        next thing i want changed is the startup sound to be short and 25% volume.. im sure some of you noticed you speakers set to 100% up after an fresh install and the stupid startup sound wakes up your angry wife.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by steverweber View Post
          next thing i want changed is the startup sound to be short and 25% volume.. im sure some of you noticed you speakers set to 100% up after an fresh install and the stupid startup sound wakes up your angry wife.
          Holy shit! I was going to make fun of you since I was 100% sure there would be an option to change the startup/logout sound and to adjust the volume, but the I looked myself and didn't find it. This really make me a sad panda . It's just so not-kde-ish.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Zhick View Post
            Holy shit! I was going to make fun of you since I was 100% sure there would be an option to change the startup/logout sound and to adjust the volume, but the I looked myself and didn't find it. This really make me a sad panda . It's just so not-kde-ish.
            From System Setting open System Notifications and there you can change both, the sound that is played and the volume of sounds played.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by steverweber View Post
              i find my slow logout problem only to be the stupidly long sound effect causing system to block until it finished playing... I requested it be removed or (shortened to a blurp) but no-one reads my bug reports.. other then that it's vary fast.
              I don't have sounds enabled at all. It must be something else...

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Tsiolkovsky View Post
                From System Setting open System Notifications and there you can change both, the sound that is played and the volume of sounds played.
                the option to change the sounds is kinda deep to find but check under system settings->notifications->system notifications->dropdown_event source("KDE system Notifications")->listbox("Logout")->checkbox_playAsound(false)

                I think dropDown_event("KDE system Notifications") should be changed to the default... since most users want to find it more often then not.

                and yes volume% for each sound effect would be nice.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by d2kx View Post
                  Krita is going to be amazing very soon:

                  Krita Team Seeking Sponsorship to Take Krita to Next Level
                  Yes, it will be great app. However, my problems are related rather to graphic drivers

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Tsiolkovsky View Post
                    From System Setting open System Notifications and there you can change both, the sound that is played and the volume of sounds played.
                    Yeah you're right, thanks god :P. Would've expected it somewhere else though.

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                    • #40
                      Nepomuk, much more than file indexing

                      Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                      I don't have a use for it. I know where my files are, I don't need to index them :P
                      Indexing files is a very tiny part of what Nepomuk does. Also, unfortunately, Nepomuk is just at the beginning of its potential. After it becomes a bit more performant many applications will start to use it in very cool ways you've never thought of.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Apopas View Post
                        One thing I miss in KDE is an easy switch user plugin. My 60 years old father has real problem when need to go to menu and then hit the switch user button to find himself before a list of half a dozen users (that thing shows the command line logged users as well and that sucks) and when finally he hits the correct button (prey he didn't hit the console user by mistake) he finds himself before a locked session and needs to unlock it (even if his acount is passwordless). Why the hell the locked sessions are enabled by default and where is the option to change it? With Gnome I had a nice face/button on his panel and with a click he got just the graphically logged users, without stupid locked screens.
                        Have you reported that bug? It might very well be that this has been overlooked.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by mat69 View Post
                          Have you reported that bug? It might very well be that this has been overlooked.
                          It has been reported by others. I didn't listen a word though that it's going to change.

                          Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                          I have disabled this "semantic desktop" thingy though ("-semantic-desktop" in make.conf). Might have something to do with it.
                          I compiled 4.3.4 without semantic-desktop as well. Same shit
                          Last edited by Apopas; 12-07-2009, 11:38 AM.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Apopas View Post
                            It has been reported by others. I didn't listen a word though that it's going to change.
                            Could you please post the Bug number? I cannot promise anything but if I find the time and if it is not too hard to fix I can at least try.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by mat69 View Post
                              Could you please post the Bug number? I cannot promise anything but if I find the time and if it is not too hard to fix I can at least try.
                              It's the
                              217738
                              one.
                              And thanks a lot mat69. The fact that you are willing to help, it's greatly appreciated.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Apopas View Post
                                I switched to KDE after 9 years of continual use of Gnome. Just for fun. I had free time and wanted to use something different.
                                Overall, KDE is impressive, especially Dolphin's preview abilities (I won't run a comparison between KDE and Gnome, no worthy reason) but this slowness in log-out time is atrocious
                                I think I know what's going on. You updated to Qt 4.6, didn't you? Don't do that. I did that today (just to test), and this resulted in the exact same thing, along with more bugs that aren't there with Qt 4.5 (like Amarok taking a long time to start while usually it pops-up almost instantly, font sizes and shapes are a bit messed up in places, text in buttons doesn't look centered correctly, stuff like that.)

                                Bottom line: Don't use Qt 4.6 with KDE 4.3.x. It's not recommended to do so. Use the Qt version that KDE 4.3 has been designed for, which is Qt 4.5.x.

                                Since you're on Gentoo, this is solved by putting this into /etc/portage/package.mask:

                                Code:
                                # KDE 4.3.x needs Qt 4.5
                                >=x11-libs/qt-core-4.6.0
                                >=x11-libs/qt-sql-4.6.0
                                >=x11-libs/qt-test-4.6.0
                                >=x11-libs/qt-script-4.6.0
                                >=x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.6.0
                                >=x11-libs/qt-xmlpatterns-4.6.0
                                >=x11-libs/qt-gui-4.6.0
                                >=x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.6.0
                                >=x11-libs/qt-svg-4.6.0
                                >=x11-libs/qt-opengl-4.6.0
                                >=x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.6.0
                                >=x11-libs/qt-assistant-4.6.0
                                >=dev-util/qt-creator-1.3.0
                                Now do a world update (emerge -auDNl --with-bdeps=y world) and it will downgrade to Qt 4.5.3 (portage will resolve all blockers automatically.) You might need to re-emerge all packages depending on Qt (which of course includes KDE itself.) To get the list of packages depending on Qt, run this command:

                                Code:
                                for s in x11-libs/qt-core x11-libs/qt-sql x11-libs/qt-test x11-libs/qt-script x11-libs/qt-dbus x11-libs/qt-xmlpatterns x11-libs/qt-gui x11-libs/qt-qt3support x11-libs/qt-svg x11-libs/qt-opengl x11-libs/qt-webkit x11-libs/qt-assistant dev-util/qt-creator; do equery -q depends $s >> list.temp; done
                                This produces a file "list.temp". Sort this list and clean-up duplicates:

                                Code:
                                sort list.temp -o list.temp
                                uniq list.temp > list
                                rm list.temp
                                Now edit the resulting "list" file to remove the Qt packages (since you've already rebuilt those) along with any other packages you don't want to rebuild right now. Finally, emerge the packages:

                                Code:
                                emerge -a1 $(for s in $(cat list); do echo "=$s"; done)
                                Do not omit the "1" option from emerge (or else you'll end up with dependencies being recorded in your world file).

                                When KDE 4.4 comes out (which is designed with Qt 4.6 in mind), you will get blocker messages from emerge, so you'll know it's time to remove the package.mask entries again.
                                Last edited by RealNC; 12-15-2009, 06:41 AM.

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