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    Phoronix: Xine-lib Update Improves A Bit For Blu-ray

    The developers behind the Xine multimedia player have announced the release of xine-lib 1.1.17. This isn't the major Xine 1.2 library update that is expected to offer significantly better Blu-ray disc support along with support for NVIDIA's VDPAU interface, but the 1.1.17 release does carry some interesting features. To be found in xine-lib 1.1.17 is improved Matroska support, fixes for UTF-16 (affecting ID3 tags in particular), support for Apple QuickTime file trailers, better support for the OpenBSD operating system, and improved support for unencrypted files on Blu-ray discs...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=Nzc1Nw

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    Is there already something like a livdvdcss for BlueRay? I hate to see BR do the same mistakes with some kind of CSS and Region Codes like the DVD had again. Thing is, that I used RC free firmware for all my DVD drives and that there is libdvdcss and Linux itself won't care about RC and stuff any further. So DVD is okay. But BR is still having these issues. And then maybe there's even additional macrovision, HDCP stuff neccessary. Does anybody have recent infos on these issues?

    And imagine all the power that is wasted by decryption of GBytes of data...

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    • #3
      And of course still no gapless support so you could at last listen to your live recordings without gaps between the tracks, no, that's rocket science.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by RealNC View Post
        And of course still no gapless support so you could at last listen to your live recordings without gaps between the tracks, no, that's rocket science.
        You get gaps while listen your tracks with Xine? I hadn't such an experience since version 0.9.x


        Edited: sorry misunderstood the problem...
        Last edited by Apopas; 12-02-2009, 06:00 AM.

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        • #5
          News like this one are always nice to read, multimedia improvements under *nix is always a good and important thing.

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          • #6
            That SIGSEGV when playing certain Quicktime movies is still present

            $ xine CRASH/crash.mov
            This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.99.6cvs.
            (c) 2000-2007 The xine Team.
            xiTK received SIGSEGV signal, RIP.
            Aborted (core dumped)
            Oops. I think it only affects certain .mov files that use an external ffmpeg library. In my case, that's:

            ffmpeg-libs-0.5-5.20091026svn.fc12.i686

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Adarion View Post
              Is there already something like a livdvdcss for BlueRay? I hate to see BR do the same mistakes with some kind of CSS and Region Codes like the DVD had again. Thing is, that I used RC free firmware for all my DVD drives and that there is libdvdcss and Linux itself won't care about RC and stuff any further. So DVD is okay. But BR is still having these issues. And then maybe there's even additional macrovision, HDCP stuff neccessary. Does anybody have recent infos on these issues?

              And imagine all the power that is wasted by decryption of GBytes of data...
              Blu-Ray is still a tricky issue even on Windows- unless you pay up for AnyDVD HD, you can't watch/rip the latest Blu-rays (and sometimes even then there is a lag between when the movie comes out, and the update to AnyDVD is available.)

              There's several libraries floating around to deal with Blu-ray problem #2: BD+, a JVM that only allows access to authorized devices, and can be updated each time a disk comes out.

              There's some patches on the MPlayer list for playing some encrypted Blu-rays, using one of the libraries out there, provided you already have all the needed keys.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by phoronix View Post
                Phoronix: Xine-lib Update Improves A Bit For Blu-ray

                system, and improved support for unencrypted files on Blu-ray discs...

                http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=Nzc1Nw
                Well, comparing to MPlayer, at least xine supports PGS (subtitles) in m2ts files ripped from Blu-ray. I wonder what will be the first player to support blu-ray menus etc (and yes, I'm talking about decrypted discs, AnyDVD HD is the only way to fully decrypt all discs today .

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                  And of course still no gapless support so you could at last listen to your live recordings without gaps between the tracks, no, that's rocket science.
                  The support for gapless needs to be implemented in the frontend as well (like xine-ui for example does). Xine-lib itself has offered gapless for a long time.

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                  • #10
                    Oh. Time to bug Amarok again about it, since last time they complained Xine doesn't support it

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Adarion View Post
                      I hate to see BR do the same mistakes with some kind of CSS and Region Codes like the DVD had again.
                      As far as the manufacturers and media companies are concerned, the only mistake with CSS was that it was too weak. It will probably take at least another 5 years for attitudes to shift about "protection" in general, and that's a pretty optimistic estimate.

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                      • #12
                        Well as css is no problem - usually other protections like bad sectors/structure protection are really bad for Linux. LinDVD handles those out of spec dvds too, but with fglrx it is no fun to use as it only uses xv output. Of course the best tools to rip those problematic dvds work with wine too, so you do not need it, but it takes a bit time to put it on hd first.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Adarion View Post
                          Is there already something like a livdvdcss for BlueRay? I hate to see BR do the same mistakes with some kind of CSS and Region Codes like the DVD had again. Thing is, that I used RC free firmware for all my DVD drives and that there is libdvdcss and Linux itself won't care about RC and stuff any further. So DVD is okay. But BR is still having these issues. And then maybe there's even additional macrovision, HDCP stuff neccessary. Does anybody have recent infos on these issues?

                          And imagine all the power that is wasted by decryption of GBytes of data...
                          Won't likely ever happen for BluRay, CSS was fatally flawed in so many ways, AACS/BD+ (the replacements) are essentially upgradable so you constantly need new versions to decrypt. Only AnyDVD is managing to keep up, the open source community has some MKV keys and some basic BD+ understanding to decode older discs but likely they won't put real effort behind it until there's a stable target, or AnyDVD has to give up/shut down. Besides, Linux has several issues with:

                          1) No BluRay menu support
                          2) No BluRay "playlist" support, without it's just clips
                          3) Issues with some H.264 streams, it seems
                          4) Unsupported video formats, like 1080i VC-1
                          5) Cropping/aspect issues on vids that aren't 1920x1080
                          6) Unsupported audio formats (Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA)

                          If everything else was working, you could at least use the output of AnyDVD under Linux. My last test found it was waaaaaaay too much trouble, and all of those things can be worked on without doing anything illegal.

                          By the way, AnyDVD HD doesn't run in WINE but oddly enough it runs from a VirtualBox running Windows and can decrypt a BluRay on the host. So it would be possible, WINE just doesn't emulate Windows well enough...

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                          • #14
                            1) The bluray support in the patch does nothing else than selecting the biggest file in the dir. I think i manage to do that too... A menu with java engine would be really cool however. Checking the file size with

                            ls -rSlh

                            is not that problematic for me...

                            4) Could you tell me which movie uses this?

                            6) is just a problem in mplayers default demuxer, i have got a patch for that but i did not like to post it on the mailinglist myself as i hate mailinglists. Feel free to use it and post it on the ml if you like to. It fixes all audio detection issues with m2ts files i tried so far without using -demuxer lavf.

                            http://kanotix.com/files/fix/mplayer-audiofix.diff

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Kjella View Post
                              Linux has several issues with:

                              1) No BluRay menu support
                              2) No BluRay "playlist" support, without it's just clips
                              3) Issues with some H.264 streams, it seems
                              4) Unsupported video formats, like 1080i VC-1
                              5) Cropping/aspect issues on vids that aren't 1920x1080
                              6) Unsupported audio formats (Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA)
                              I don't have a BD-drive so cannot test the actual state, there is support for at least the following in xine-lib 1.2

                              4) http://hg.debian.org/hg/xine-lib/xin...v/59e232642441 (unless it is the 1080i that's the problem)
                              6) http://hg.debian.org/hg/xine-lib/xin...v/9e22e02b31db

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