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  • Ubuntu's First 100 Paper Cuts, Some Bandaged

    Phoronix: Ubuntu's First 100 Paper Cuts, Some Bandaged

    Last week the first ten Ubuntu paper cuts were exposed via Launchpad, which are small annoying usability problems with Ubuntu (and upstream applications) that are quite easy to address but simply have not been carried out. In time for the release of Ubuntu 9.10, Canonical hopes to have 100 of these "paper cuts" addressed...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NzM0NQ

  • #2
    This is a great idea. I've been contributing feedback for one of the papercuts (nautilus doesn't single click to rename ... and I prefer it not to either :P it's an annoying "feature" of Windows and I think KDE too). Overall what I've seen is very constructive, and should make Ubuntu 9.10 something more polished and very nice.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by lem79 View Post
      This is a great idea. I've been contributing feedback for one of the papercuts (nautilus doesn't single click to rename ... and I prefer it not to either :P it's an annoying "feature" of Windows and I think KDE too). Overall what I've seen is very constructive, and should make Ubuntu 9.10 something more polished and very nice.
      Fancy that, I've also posted on this paper cut (we agree, rename-on-click is very annoying).

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      • #4
        some of these, I can see why and how they can be annoying to everybody... others, i feel like they're trying to just make certain little things more like Windows

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        • #5
          I think this is doing more harm than good. There's the rename thing, just because Windows does it, and also the proposal to make double clicking on archives auto-extract it into a new folder. I want it to open in archive manager first so I can examine the files and maybe extract only a few rather than all of them, and have a right-click menu to one-step extract.

          I don't want a delete warning when I'm only moving to Trash; I don't want icons on the Open With menu and I don't want Ctrl-Alt-Backspace off by default (which sin't a papercut but was "fixed" for Jaunty under similar usability arguments).
          Last edited by Game_boy; 06-24-2009, 12:20 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Game_boy View Post
            I think this is doing more harm than good. There's the rename thing, just because Windows does it, and also the proposal to make double clicking on archives auto-extract it into a new folder. I want it to open in archive manager first so I can examine the files and maybe extract only a few rather than all of them, and have a right-click menu to one-step extract.

            I don't want a delete warning when I'm only moving to Trash; I don't want icons on the Open With menu and I don't want Ctrl-Alt-Backspace off by default (which sin't a papercut but was "fixed" for Jaunty under similar usability arguments).
            Sounds like the majority of what you want to do is make Gnome like KDE.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Game_boy View Post
              ...I don't want Ctrl-Alt-Backspace off by default (which sin't a papercut but was "fixed" for Jaunty under similar usability arguments).
              It was not 'fixed' for Jaunty, it is by default in X Server 1.6, but of course the distros can choose to disable or enable this by default, they choose the leave disabled as upstream.

              You can use dontzap --disable

              Originally posted by deanjo View Post
              Sounds like the majority of what you want to do is make Gnome like KDE.
              +1

              With KDE you have the option to customize the whole desktop

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              • #8
                Maybe I've simply missed it, but do you know what context-menu option I'd like to see for Thunar/Nautilus/Konqueror/Dolphin?

                "Dump Folder Here"

                Basically, it's like "Extract Archive Here", but instead of extracting the contents of an archive into the current folder, "Dump Folder Here" would basically empty the whole contents of a sub-folder into the current folder. (and then delete the sub-folder)

                As far as I'm aware, no desktop environment under Linux, Mac, or Windows has this feature.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                  Sounds like the majority of what you want to do is make Gnome like KDE.
                  What? I'm against everything I listed; i.e. I don't want it changed from what it is now. I much prefer GNOME's feel to KDE.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Darkfire Fox View Post
                    Maybe I've simply missed it, but do you know what context-menu option I'd like to see for Thunar/Nautilus/Konqueror/Dolphin?

                    "Dump Folder Here"

                    Basically, it's like "Extract Archive Here", but instead of extracting the contents of an archive into the current folder, "Dump Folder Here" would basically empty the whole contents of a sub-folder into the current folder. (and then delete the sub-folder)

                    As far as I'm aware, no desktop environment under Linux, Mac, or Windows has this feature.

                    i was thinking that last night!

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                    • #11
                      Surely you could change the default action for an archive. The point is that most people just want to extract the archive. If you've more sophisticated needs, changing it isn't hard.

                      I plan on changing it back to file-roller myself, but I'm not going to complain because the distro isn't catering to my needs rather than those of its target audience.

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                      • #12
                        Like someone said above, be careful,
                        don't try to turn Linux Desktop into a Windows Copycat

                        Just because Windows does it this way does not mean we should take it as granted. Three confirms to delete a file is just ridiculous. We don't need another Windows, if we do, we'd rather just use Windows(tm) instead don't we?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Darkfire Fox View Post
                          Maybe I've simply missed it, but do you know what context-menu option I'd like to see for Thunar/Nautilus/Konqueror/Dolphin?

                          "Dump Folder Here"

                          Basically, it's like "Extract Archive Here", but instead of extracting the contents of an archive into the current folder, "Dump Folder Here" would basically empty the whole contents of a sub-folder into the current folder. (and then delete the sub-folder)

                          As far as I'm aware, no desktop environment under Linux, Mac, or Windows has this feature.

                          I guess you could try something like .. open a terminal, cd to the folder where you want to dump the sub-folder, then go: find /path/to/sub-folder/ -type f -exec mv '{}' . ';'

                          edit: the find example given is recursive, it'll essentially trash any folder structure under sub-folder. You'll get a flat list of files, and I'm not sure how it will tolerate files of the same names, probably overwrite?

                          That will dump every file in sub-folder (skipping folders) to the current folder.

                          While that's nowhere near as easy as two clicks, it still works. Perhaps you could put that in your nautilus scripts? I don't know how those work, so can't help there, sorry.

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                          • #14
                            As long as I have the choice to making gnome behave one way or the other I can care less about the defaults. Making it one way or the highway... thats a problem. JMHO but just because Windows does something a certain way doesnt make it the wrong way. I like single-click rename so

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by diagonal_mambo View Post
                              Surely you could change the default action for an archive. The point is that most people just want to extract the archive. If you've more sophisticated needs, changing it isn't hard.

                              I plan on changing it back to file-roller myself, but I'm not going to complain because the distro isn't catering to my needs rather than those of its target audience.
                              Huh? I wasn't talking about extracting archives, I was talking about dumping the whole contents of one folder into another folder.

                              Or were you replying to Game_Boy's post?

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