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  • #16
    Originally posted by Kano View Post
    I did not compare quality or whatever. If you define ogg as container or audio format it does not matter, as there are basically no external players which support it.
    Well, afaik it would be a bit like saying that a certain player can play MPEG4 when it can only play divx. Then someone would try to run xvid on the player and be shocked it didn't work. (MPEG4 is a container which can include eg divx, xvid or h.264 or all so that would be a valid statement) We actually ran into this very same issue with DVD players which were advertised to have MPEG4 support.

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    • #17
      Also for the record, OGG Vorbis works fine here on Amarok 2.0.2.

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      • #18
        Amarok 2 with xine also doesn't seek smoothly, I have this problem on 2 different PCs, one with on-board sound card and other with Auzen X-Fi Prelude, both of them run archlinux and base alsa. I will stick to mpg123 / xmms, low memory footprint and fast playlist query is what interest me. For Auzen X-Fi Prelude I just boot XP and use foobar2000 since I need something that works correclty, I have put lot of money into that card, got dual opa637bp op-amps, panasonic fm / rubycon blackgate nx capacitors.

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        • #19
          Hehe lookie at this, motherfucking concrete evidence why free software still sucks ass, especially kde4 and their piece of shit amarok (fast forward motto lol, takes +100MB just to launch and grind your hdd with mysql shit, like we need a fucking need sql database to organize the info)



          That's right, 4000 mp3 loaded in timely fashion, great efficiency, just like xmms. And best of all, I can fucking seek/crossfade smoothly! Sound is perfect too.

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          • #20
            It's a shame that all you can do is scream profanity at those who work hard to give you a free ride, instead of offering to help.

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            • #21
              Your Profanity FAILS

              Originally posted by hax0r View Post
              Hehe lookie at this, motherfucking concrete evidence why free software still sucks ass, especially kde4 and their piece of shit amarok (fast forward motto lol, takes +100MB just to launch and grind your hdd with mysql shit, like we need a fucking need sql database to organize the info)

              That's right, 4000 mp3 loaded in timely fashion, great efficiency, just like xmms. And best of all, I can fucking seek/crossfade smoothly! Sound is perfect too.
              Wow... just, wow.....
              OK, sir, STOP....BREATHE....count to ten. The world isn't imploding.

              Perhaps you should seek a refund on you *free* software, since it's SO incredibly bad?

              And are (un)Creative X-FI cards even supported yet on mainline ALSA? I mean, I know the source code was released a while ago, but does it actually work yet?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by hax0r View Post
                Hehe lookie at this, motherfucking concrete evidence why free software still sucks ass, especially kde4 and their piece of shit amarok (fast forward motto lol, takes +100MB just to launch and grind your hdd with mysql shit, like we need a fucking need sql database to organize the info)

                That's right, 4000 mp3 loaded in timely fashion, great efficiency, just like xmms. And best of all, I can fucking seek/crossfade smoothly! Sound is perfect too.
                It looks like crap :P I have 64 bit system and Amarok 2 consumes about 60MB (heh, compared to above thing it's probably much :>). I never used Foobar, but it may have less features then Amarok. What sucks ass is Gnome with its Rhythmbox. Thing consumes more CPU then Amarok2 and sound is choppy under load. There's many space left to improve this great KDE 4 player cause it's still in development. Stop Fooling yourself ;p I can imagine that managing music collection is pain in this Foobar...
                Last edited by kraftman; 07-07-2009, 06:13 AM.

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                • #23
                  Tried Audacious? Not perfect, but the most sensible thing since xmms, IMO.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by kraftman View Post
                    I never used Foobar, but it may have less features then Amarok. Stop Fooling yourself ;p I can imagine that managing music collection is pain in this Foobar...
                    Sorry man but on this one you are just plain wrong. Fubar feature-wise pretty much skins every other player out there and one of it's greatest strengths is music collection management.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                      Sorry man but on this one you are just plain wrong. Fubar feature-wise pretty much skins every other player out there and one of it's greatest strengths is music collection management.
                      Yes, you're right. It seems to be quite comfortable. It's little like Amarok 2 without MySQL (advantage, disadvantage or maybe apples and oranges situation?).
                      Last edited by kraftman; 07-07-2009, 09:43 AM.

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                      • #26
                        Sorry guys I was frustrated late at night yesterday .

                        @Ant P., I'm actually giving back something to open source, but not much ATM, seems like I'm bashing more.
                        @pmorph, Audacious uses to much memory and feels quite laggy, it's a bad port of xmms.
                        @Darkfire Fox, Yes all X-Fi based (EMU20K1 ~ EMU20K2) cards are supported out of the box since 2.6.31-rc1 or rc2, I poked around the mlists and they patched git alsa for me.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by hax0r View Post
                          @pmorph, Audacious uses to much memory and feels quite laggy, it's a bad port of xmms.
                          Ok, the feel of lag is your personal user experience, and I'm not going to argue with that. I'm going to argue about the memory usage though

                          Code:
                          ~$ free
                                       total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
                          Mem:       2075400     114716    1960684          0        348      59916
                          -/+ buffers/cache:      54452    2020948
                          Swap:       289128          0     289128
                          ~$ 
                          ~$ audacious &
                          [1] 1715
                          ~$ 
                          ~$ free
                                       total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
                          Mem:       2075400     144016    1931384          0        348      77568
                          -/+ buffers/cache:      66100    2009300
                          Swap:       289128          0     289128
                          
                           2020948
                          -2009300
                          ========
                             11648 = 11.375MB
                          
                          4089 tunes on playlist.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by hax0r View Post
                            Sorry guys I was frustrated late at night yesterday .

                            @Ant P., I'm actually giving back something to open source, but not much ATM, seems like I'm bashing more.
                            Thanks to this I have more objective look at Amarok right now You mentioned sound is laggy sometimes. Maybe you use Gstreamer with Amarok? As far as I know this is possible.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by hax0r View Post
                              Amarok 2 with xine also doesn't seek smoothly, I have this problem on 2 different PCs, one with on-board sound card and other with Auzen X-Fi Prelude, both of them run archlinux and base alsa. I will stick to mpg123 / xmms, low memory footprint and fast playlist query is what interest me. For Auzen X-Fi Prelude I just boot XP and use foobar2000 since I need something that works correclty, I have put lot of money into that card, got dual opa637bp op-amps, panasonic fm / rubycon blackgate nx capacitors.
                              try alsaplayer will libmad. You might be surprised.

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                              • #30
                                Alsaplayer is good, but it has one grave weakness: playlist handling. And the most grave problem there is the lack of "find/search" function!?!

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