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  • #16
    Originally posted by NeoBrain View Post
    Where did you remove it from? In KDE 4.2 RC 1, it was in the favorites tab and also in the computer tab, but it can only be removed from favorites here. So, to re-add it there, just right click on the system-settings icon in the computer tab and select "add to favorites".

    (This doesn't apply if you're using the traditional menu of course)
    It used to be in the Favourites Tab in KDE 4.1.4, but when I had 4.2 installed the icon was missing (with only a question mark in place) so I removed it, in the belief it was somewhere else too. But, I possibly didn't look at the computer Tab. Gotta try it when I come home from work.

    Thanks for the tip, however!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by TechMage89 View Post
      I have to say I'm not impressed by the performance. Even without compositing it's hardly usable. This is on two machines less than a year old with core2 duo processesors and 3GB of ram.

      I figure there must be something wrong here, but there doesn't appear to be. GNOME runs plenty fast, even with the compositor. Why is KDE so slow?
      I run KDE4 on my EeePC and it's fast. But I know two things that cause performance problems. On thing is the old nvidia drivers, other thing is a bug on Ubuntu's xserver that causes garbage drawing on screen, and slow downs the interface.

      If you are using Ubuntu, try adding "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/adamspain/ubuntu intrepid main" to your repositories and upgrading xserver-xorg

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      • #18
        Originally posted by puelocesar View Post
        I run KDE4 on my EeePC and it's fast. But I know two things that cause performance problems. On thing is the old nvidia drivers, other thing is a bug on Ubuntu's xserver that causes garbage drawing on screen, and slow downs the interface.

        If you are using Ubuntu, try adding "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/adamspain/ubuntu intrepid main" to your repositories and upgrading xserver-xorg
        I know that it causes garbage drawing on the screen because of that bugged Fedora patch, but are you sure it slows down the interface? Why hasn't Ubuntu dropped this patch yet? Is it still a problem in Jaunty?

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        • #19
          Sweeeeeeeet.

          P.S. It runs amazingly smoothly and speedy on my really not that fast laptop. Potential reasons for slowness issues are: misconfigured nepomuk/soprano/strigi (soprano should use the java-runtime dependent sesame2 backend) and crappy video drivers.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by d2kx View Post
            I know that it causes garbage drawing on the screen because of that bugged Fedora patch, but are you sure it slows down the interface? Why hasn't Ubuntu dropped this patch yet? Is it still a problem in Jaunty?
            Yeah, it's strange, because Ubuntu's developers are bitching against removing the patch because they say that removing it it will be a slow down, but here, on my setup, installing a xserver without the patch actually makes KDE4 much faster, so I think the video corruption also slowed things down

            Well, now it seems that they dropped the patch for jaunty, but they won't do this for Intrepid as an update because they say it's not a security problem.. That's why I like Arch Linux, there they just fix the thing and everybody gets happy

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            • #21
              Originally posted by sabriah View Post
              It used to be in the Favourites Tab in KDE 4.1.4, but when I had 4.2 installed the icon was missing (with only a question mark in place) so I removed it, in the belief it was somewhere else too. But, I possibly didn't look at the computer Tab. Gotta try it when I come home from work.

              Thanks for the tip, however!
              Oh well... why do it easy if there's a complex way to do it...
              Removing ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc should have the same effect, even if you'd need to restore all your personal widget settings.

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              • #22
                I hope they port EVERYTHING IN KDE 3.5.9 to KDE 4.2.
                Especially I want software like K3B back. Its got NO replacement.

                Kaffeine too I miss and Dragon Player Sucks, but since VLC shifted to QT4, thats not as big an issue as it could have been.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by NeoBrain View Post
                  Oh well... why do it easy if there's a complex way to do it...
                  Removing ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc should have the same effect, even if you'd need to restore all your personal widget settings.
                  Thanks that fixed it, even if don't think new users would dare to do it on their own.

                  Also, before removing plasma-appletsrc I noticed that my kmail icon was gone, and I cannot find that either.

                  Maybe I get these annoyances because i upgrade rather than do a clean install?

                  EDIT: Oh, it didn't fix all issues, I notice. It didn't bring back the "System settings". Hmmmm.

                  EDIT2: Like very often, this was a case of handling error. Doubly so. It appeared I had been too keen to install KDE 4.2 and had not received all parts of it. While reinstalling some components in an attempt to solve the issue there was a whole range of new apps trickling down the line! Sorry for wasting your bandwidth with my inane ramblings.
                  Last edited by sabriah; 01-28-2009, 04:22 PM.

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                  • #24
                    KDE4-Versions of Kaffeine and K3B are already in work. You can get them from SVN. K3B is already very usable (at least I haven't encountered any problems so far).
                    Kaffeine seems to work mostly as well, except if you want to use it to watch tv with a tv-card (like me). Also it uses Phonon, so many configuration-options are no longer available.

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                    • #25
                      Or, and I don't know why people are having trouble grasping this, you can run KDE3 apps in KDE4. Just like you can use Gnome, GTK, LXDE, Enlightenment, and Windows apps (via wine, of course) in KDE4.

                      It's not like the dev's are thinking "ah, screw it, you guys don't need a power-user-type media player or a burning program." Kaffeine and k3b aren't "official" KDE applications - they just happen to be applications that are built for KDE. So, they aren't tied to KDE's release schedules. They're coming, just not "there" yet.

                      But, yeah, you can get them from subversion. Some distros package them. OpenSUSE has them in their KDE:KDE4:UNSTABLE:Extra-Apps repository (which is pretty much /trunk snapshots from KDE's svn repo).

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by puelocesar View Post
                        Yeah, it's strange, because Ubuntu's developers are bitching against removing the patch because they say that removing it it will be a slow down, but here, on my setup, installing a xserver without the patch actually makes KDE4 much faster, so I think the video corruption also slowed things down

                        Well, now it seems that they dropped the patch for jaunty, but they won't do this for Intrepid as an update because they say it's not a security problem.. That's why I like Arch Linux, there they just fix the thing and everybody gets happy
                        We(the Kubuntu guys) have added it to the repo we use to provide 4.2, so everybody should "gets happy"
                        See http://www.kitterman.org/ScottK/2009...video_gar.html for more infos on that.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Smarter View Post
                          We(the Kubuntu guys) have added it to the repo we use to provide 4.2, so everybody should "gets happy"
                          See http://www.kitterman.org/ScottK/2009...video_gar.html for more infos on that.
                          Hey, thanks!

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