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  • #16
    Originally posted by Filiprino View Post
    OS X is pretty, that's all.
    And it's called GNU Linux, not Linux. Linux is the kernel, like Linux in Android.
    It's great when someone tries so hard to be anything but ignorant, and then ends up being totally ignorant.

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    • #17
      It would have been more beneficial to bench against OSX 10.10 considering Linux 3.16 is not a final release.

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      • #18
        ok

        Originally posted by ciferkey View Post
        The only other comparison I would like to see power management seeing as a large part of the Air's appeal is its long battery life.
        i have 5 hours of battery life with a cheap asus notebook with a garbage battery is almost certain with a macbook air you have a lot more, kernel 3.15 and 3.16 improves a lot the battery life

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        • #19
          The reason I call it "Linux" is because "GNU" is ugly as hell. And also, people wouldn't know what I'm talking about if I said "GNU".

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          • #20
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            The reason I call it "Linux" is because "GNU" is ugly as hell. And also, people wouldn't know what I'm talking about if I said "GNU".
            OS X doesn't look better either. Porn comes to mind.

            Originally posted by profoundWHALE View Post
            It's great when someone tries so hard to be anything but ignorant, and then ends up being totally ignorant.
            You're the ignorant here, mister.

            Undermining other OSes and correcting people into saying "GNU Linux" (which, as stated previously, isn't even completely correct) is exactly why people hate the linux community - it makes us look very pretentious.

            People understand that:
            *Linux isn't an OS, it's a kernel.
            *KDE5 isn't a thing - it's actually KDE frameworks 5 and plasma workspaces 2.
            *Saying "PIN number" is redundant, even though it is often spoken for clarification.
            *A yellow traffic light means "yield", not "speed up"
            *It's not correct to call people from the US as "Americans" because that refers to everyone from both North and South Americas.

            the list goes on and on. These are things nearly everyone knows, but people CHOOSE to ignore them, for varying reasons.
            Calling it GNU/Linux is completely correct. Userland is full GNU, including the vastly used Linux API implementation: glibc. Graphics interface is an add-on that doesn't count and is outside the main user land.
            KDE is called KDE SC, KDE Software Compilation which uses KDE Framework and Plasma Workspaces in a similar manner GNU uses Linux.

            The rest, I'm OK with that and you could call people from the US as "americans" because they're in America so americans is their generic type but programs for native Android are not valid for GNU nor BusyBox.

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            System branding. People don't normally say "Linux" in that context you are taking about, instead they say "Ubuntu" or "Red Hat".
            But in fact those are GNU/Linux systems. Their generic type is GNU which abstracts Linux.
            Today I think I'll download Debian GNU/Linux.
            Last edited by Filiprino; 07-14-2014, 02:03 PM.

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            • #21
              Your zealotry is sickening.

              Everyone in a professional environment will say Linux or distro name. It's wrong to correct it and giving deference to GNU is unnecessary. Even if GNU is at the heart of every Linux desktop, there is no Linux desktop without Linux. I wouldn't call an Android x86 install running on a desktop "Android Bionic/Linux".

              Debian GNU/kFreeBSD makes no sense either. I only see GNU trying to butt in. If somebody were to excise GNU from that distro or any distro for that matter, GNU defenders assume that the replacement would be something like Debian Replacement/Linux or Debian Replacement/kFreeBSD when I assume a replacement would not want such crazy naming. It is unfair to subject any kernel or user to this madness.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by LLStarks View Post
                Your zealotry is sickening.

                Everyone in a professional environment will say Linux or distro name. It's wrong to correct it and giving deference to GNU is unnecessary. Even if GNU is at the heart of every Linux desktop, there is no Linux desktop without Linux. I wouldn't call an Android x86 install running on a desktop "Android Bionic/Linux".

                Debian GNU/kFreeBSD makes no sense either. I only see GNU trying to butt in. If somebody were to excise GNU from that distro or any distro for that matter, GNU defenders assume that the replacement would be something like Debian Replacement/Linux or Debian Replacement/kFreeBSD when I assume a replacement would not want such crazy naming. It is unfair to subject any kernel or user to this madness.
                It's not zealotry. In a professional environment I use GNU Linux,or GNU. If you speak about Linux you can't know if it refers to Android, GNU, BusyBox, TIVO or whatever. There is no Linux desktop without Linux but there's GNU desktop without Linux.
                Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is not an attempt of GNU trying to butt in, it's a choice based on correct knowledge, a choice of the creators GNU system distribution. The only part of the name that can be deleted is Linux, kFreeBSD or the kernel you want. The system as a whole is GNU and even the kernel is made using GCC functions.

                There's also the people who prefer to talk about Open Source software instead of Free Software. Pick your choice but there's only one that is truly correct. The other one is misinterpretation and not wanting to face the facts. Open Source Initiative was created because some people though that talking about something called "Free Software" would scare companies. That same people allow things like TiVoization. There's only a way and if you only convince people by technical prowess then you won't gain anyting. As easy they come they'll go and your system will lose support and you'll return back to the same crappy state of the art.

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                • #23
                  who cares?

                  who cares about the name? the gnu/linux "name" only exists because richard stallman, for marking proposes, even linus refuses this name, but who cares?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by rikkinho View Post
                    who cares about the name? the gnu/linux "name" only exists because richard stallman, for marking proposes, even linus refuses this name, but who cares?
                    Yep, it's silly sidetrack, but one everyone is qualified to comment on.. like what colour a bike shed should be

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                    • #25
                      cares linux trolls. But anyway, results are proportional to the hardware : osx - cpu - core i5 @ 1,3 ghz @ 2 cores, ubuntu 14.04 - core i5 @ 1,3 ghz @ 4 cores, ubuntu 14.04 + dev mesa & kernel - core i5 @ 2,6 ghz @ 4 cores.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by startzz View Post
                        cares linux trolls. But anyway, results are proportional to the hardware : osx - cpu - core i5 @ 1,3 ghz @ 2 cores, ubuntu 14.04 - core i5 @ 1,3 ghz @ 4 cores, ubuntu 14.04 + dev mesa & kernel - core i5 @ 2,6 ghz @ 4 cores.
                        No, It's the same exact hardware, a Macbook Air.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Luke_Wolf View Post
                          No, It's the same exact hardware, a Macbook Air.
                          Well, I guess Michael messed up the Specs table then.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Drago View Post
                            Well, I guess Michael messed up the Specs table then.
                            Well the difference basically is between how P-States exposes frequency information to user space and how other governors expose frequency information. AFAIR with P-States it exposes the turbo speed, whereas with other governors it exposes the normal upper operating frequency. (Note that that doesn't mean that other governors don't turbo)

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Filiprino View Post
                              OS X is pretty, that's all.
                              It's not even that IMO. Especially regarding the horrifyingly ugly traffic lights window buttons and the cold fake metal theme. It's just got some nicer animations.
                              Last edited by nll_a; 07-14-2014, 04:29 PM.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Filiprino View Post
                                OS X is pretty, that's all.
                                Totally subjective. I don't like it at all.

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