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  • PC-BSD Is Developing Its Own Desktop Environment

    Phoronix: PC-BSD Is Developing Its Own Desktop Environment

    The PC-BSD project is developing its own desktop environment from scratch! The ultimate plan is for Lumina to become a full-featured, open-source desktop environment that may ultimately replace KDE as its default desktop environment...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTY3MTc

  • #2
    Well, at least that's a nice change of pace from all the Gnome forks...

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    • #3
      This might be more stupid than Debian trying to pretend to support Hurd and to get anyone to use it.

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      • #4
        Sigh - another wanna be desktop

        Gnome, Unity, XFCE, KDE, Razor, (ten others). Does the world need yet another 95% completed Desktop. Yes to a degree they are all bad, but can't they try to pick one and work with them. I mean there is so much more to writting a desktop then just playing with crayons and creating widgets. I've been a big fan of KDE for along time, but I am looking for Unity 8 to take me away from KDE once and for all.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mark45 View Post
          This might be more stupid than Debian trying to pretend to support Hurd and to get anyone to use it.
          This sentence doesn't comprehend to me? Mind to repeat?

          Would be nice if it made some headway, imo. There are already pleanty of alternative Qt DEs, but not many that are complete or full featured and stable. On the other hand, it would also have been nice if they cooperated with those other DEs, but I guess they had some other grand plan (haven't read their blog post yet).

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DarkCloud View Post
            Gnome, Unity, XFCE, KDE, Razor, (ten others). Does the world need yet another 95% completed Desktop. Yes to a degree they are all bad, but can't they try to pick one and work with them. I mean there is so much more to writting a desktop then just playing with crayons and creating widgets. I've been a big fan of KDE for along time, but I am looking for Unity 8 to take me away from KDE once and for all.
            I am looking at the same with regards to Unity 8. But I see things differently, otherwise. I see KDE, Gnome, LXDE, etc as test beds. Open source hackers scratching an itch. Ultimately, you need Google to create a Chromebook, or Android, or even Ubuntu to create a consistent UI, hopefully Unity 8. Meaning, software as a hobby is awesome, but the power of Open Source is precisely cooperation and access to the code, rather than hobbyism.

            So, you need a company to produce a polished product. This has not been an impediment. Linux/Open Source runs most of the phones in this world, most of the tablets, most of the servers, almost every supercomputer, a good chunk of the cloud/big data, and the only growing segment of personal computers (Chromebooks). The main partners for this have been IBM on the big Iron in the early years, and later Intel, Google certainly, and very many other corporations.

            Let the hackers keep having fun, forking away, creating, recreating, failing and succeeding. It's all good.

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            • #7
              Because we all need another DE right?
              MATE is very good
              KDE is very good
              Some of the others are very good.

              I honestly hope it fails. I'm sorry but the Linux community needs to rally behind 1 or a few DE's.
              Anyone creating a new DE at this point has a level of arrogance that the Linux community dosen't need.
              Take a look at Ubuntu for an example.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by grndzro View Post
                Anyone creating a new DE at this point has a level of arrogance that the Linux community dosen't need.
                Well the good thing is that it's not the "Linux community" behind it but BSD.

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                • #9
                  I haven't used PC-BSD, but this might be a "that's it! screw it!" reaction. Maybe all DEs just doesn't work very well on BSD, since pretty much all of them are made with Linux in mind? With systemd (and by extension logind), maybe Linux finally ventured far away enough from likeness with BSD that a new DE is needed?

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                  • #10
                    Hey, I'd rather to see them succeed with a better modular light weighted design,
                    and so successful that it can be ported to Linux and replace some of other *DE's.

                    Be success, please!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by grndzro View Post
                      Because we all need another DE right?
                      MATE is very good
                      KDE is very good
                      Some of the others are very good.

                      I honestly hope it fails. I'm sorry but the Linux community needs to rally behind 1 or a few DE's.
                      Anyone creating a new DE at this point has a level of arrogance that the Linux community dosen't need.
                      Take a look at Ubuntu for an example.
                      You're right. While we're at it, let's write our own Linux-specific display servers. We did create our own Linux-specific sound system in the past, so why not?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by nslay View Post
                        You're right. While we're at it, let's write our own Linux-specific display servers. We did create our own Linux-specific sound system in the past, so why not?
                        Because linux is at the same point in it's development as it was 10 years ago.....You are living in the past.
                        Linux is at the cusp of becoming a mainstream operating system. That wasn't the case even 2 years ago.

                        If so many people weren't so dead set on expressing their independence by going against the grain Linux would have taken off many years ago. Instead we have had to deal with Windows crap for 3 OSes too long.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by grndzro View Post
                          Because linux is at the same point in it's development as it was 10 years ago.....You are living in the past.
                          Linux is at the cusp of becoming a mainstream operating system. That wasn't the case even 2 years ago.

                          If so many people weren't so dead set on expressing their independence by going against the grain Linux would have taken off many years ago. Instead we have had to deal with Windows crap for 3 OSes too long.
                          Your post says it all. You're the arrogant ones and have been all along; not BSD. There's the Unix-like community and then there's Linux.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by nslay View Post
                            You're right. While we're at it, let's write our own Linux-specific display servers. We did create our own Linux-specific sound system in the past, so why not?
                            Lets not. Systemd is as is, because BSD has older interfaces and lack any serious initiative to stand up and catch up. If BSD don't see any advantage, they can leave it be. If there is conflict between a piece of software, those with higher marketshare, higher income, higher man/hour resource will drive it, in opensource. That is the case with udev.

                            ALSA happened not because they wanted Linux-specific, but because it become proprietary and Linux contributors saw it as a danger. In the end, it only benefited. If you want - take ALSA and modify it for BSD. But BSD is not doing it because they are limited on resources and limited on interest and its better this way. If tomorrow OSS decides to close down or turn into proprietary at-key shelf-solution (BSD-based hardware with own proprietary OSS stack in a black box, like PS4), then BSD will be without sound at all. Then something will be changed or not, and your phrase above will shift.

                            The real question is - why are they not taking LXQT, aka ex-Razor?
                            They want their own DE which they think differs from existing solutions or want to duplicate for the reason of fun, then so will it be.

                            Calm down and do what you consider right. That simple.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by nslay View Post
                              Your post says it all. You're the arrogant ones and have been all along; not BSD. There's the Unix-like community and then there's Linux.
                              Calling BSD Unix shows how little you know.
                              BSD diverged so far from Unix after the rewrite that it is a completely different OS that uses Linux for the majority of it's advancment.
                              It isn't being arrogant, it's being practical. Open source is in general too fragmented.

                              FreeBSD has little or no aspirations toward becoming a mainstream operating system. The work needed to make it competitive with Linux should be devoted elsewhere.
                              FreeBSD has a lot of things going for it but being a desktop is never going to be one of them. They should make a framework rather than a desktop. It would be more productive and in line with what freeBSD has become.

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