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    Phoronix: FreeBSD 10.0 Has Finally Been Released

    It's been delayed by many months but the official release of FreeBSD 10.0 has shipped today!..

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTU3NzM

  • #2
    releng/10.0 branch due 25 October 2013, actual 7 December 2013

    many weeks, hardly many months.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rpmcmurphy View Post
      releng/10.0 branch due 25 October 2013, actual 7 December 2013

      many weeks, hardly many months.
      That was the already revised schedule. IIRC, original schedule for final release was October or November.
      Michael Larabel
      http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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      • #4
        good news!

        BSD is taking an interesting change in direction with CLANG as the default compiler. Lots of other improvements of course, hopefully we will see a review of the final distribution sometime on Phoronix.

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        • #5
          IIRC they're the first OS to be fully reliant on Clang?!

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          • #6
            Finally..!

            Good, I was waiting to install PC-BSD!

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            • #7
              Not Quite

              Originally posted by BSDude View Post
              IIRC they're the first OS to be fully reliant on Clang?!
              The elephant in the room being OS X Mavericks, built with Xcode 5, which is completely based on LLVM, Clang being just a different front end.

              I don't think FreeBSD was built with Clang per say.

              (Yes, we don't know that some pieces of Mavericks may have been built with GCC, but considering Xcode has shipped with clang as the default compiler since Xcode 4.x, and completely removed with Xcode 5, it is a reasonable assumption.)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BSDude View Post
                IIRC they're the first OS to be fully reliant on Clang?!
                I think OS X might have been the first, though at least for a while they were reliant on a specially patched gcc that attached to LLVM's backend.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BSDude View Post
                  IIRC they're the first OS to be fully reliant on Clang?!
                  No, iOS was the first. OSX came second and transitioned from GCC later. PlayStation 4's OrbisOS, which is based on FreeBSD 9 but is not exactly the same as FBSD9, was formally released before FreeBSD 10 and therefore is the third OS.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mzs_47 View Post
                    Good, I was waiting to install PC-BSD!
                    Agreed. Great news! Thank FBSD developers. I am lazy and so I will wait for the PCBSD ISOs. I may even go back to my PCBSD primary work machine.

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                    • #11
                      I don't think you guys have really used FreeBSD 10 yet.

                      Take a took at this review by some people who actually tried FreeBSD 10:
                      http://aboutthebsds.wordpress.com/20...f-freebsd-yet/

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                      • #12
                        Just stop your pathetic attempts to drive traffic to your blog. Nobody is taking you serious anyways.

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                        • #13
                          Actually I enjoyed reading it. It made me laugh.
                          Yes stock versions of FreeBSD are now compiled with CLANG not GCC. As of 2014, CLANG still produces vastly inferior binaries compared to GCC.
                          With the kernel fully booted and the slow and obsolete BSD init finally activating all required services, we started the installation and ran into the next big change. Arrow keys do not work anymore.
                          Booting from the hard drive is now far slower then booting from the CD. The boot loader and kernel are both so slow with the kernel being the worst.
                          BSD developers are trying to force users away from FOSS respecting GPU manufacturers like Intel and AMD and instead make them use drivers from proprietary terrorists like NVidia.
                          We tried out these instructions and got one FreeBSD virtual machine to boot after 10 hours (just pointless). By contrast, KVM in Linux took only 30 minutes.
                          When you try too hard to burn someone, you just look like you're an idiot who doesn't even have a clue about anything

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by endman View Post
                            I don't think you guys have really used FreeBSD 10 yet.

                            Take a took at this review by some people who actually tried FreeBSD 10:
                            http://aboutthebsds.wordpress.com/20...f-freebsd-yet/

                            By some people who are clearly delirious...

                            Using our machine, it took us nearly 20 hours to build Xorg. Once Xorg has been build, the troubles are only just beginning.
                            Enough said. I managed to compile all of Xorg in a matter of minutes from ports, and that was on a VMWare instance on a PC. 20 Hours? Sounds like a load of BS to me (or an ultra slow machine).

                            Yes stock versions of FreeBSD are now compiled with CLANG not GCC. As of 2014, CLANG still produces vastly inferior binaries compared to GCC.
                            Absolute horse shit. Clang 3.3 produces significantly faster code than the old base gcc 4.2.1 compiler that was in freebsd for years. Recent CLANG's are not all that far behind GCC at all.

                            Finally with the installation done, we now boot from the hard drive and encounter probably the biggest change to FreeBSD 10.0. Booting from the hard drive is now far slower then booting from the CD.
                            Clearly a sign of PEBKAC (or bad hardware).

                            There is so much more BS in that blog it doesnt deserve a response. Whoever wrote it really needs to get a clue (using ZFS on a laptop with a single 5200rpm drive)? LOL. The troll would have been better off with the stock UFS2 for a laptop. Amazed at the amount of cluelessness out there.
                            Last edited by ahhyes; 01-22-2014, 11:13 PM.

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