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  • #16
    This is the why your don't use source-based package manager, if you build binaries without purpose.
    First good step would be to replace a "*" in target architecture with something that makes sense. And about time they discover what ROI means.

    Originally posted by Cthulhux View Post
    I impatiently await the first "lol OpenB$D is dead! use Lin$ux!" postings.

    Interestingly, most Open Source foundations (except those backed by large companies) suffer from the same problems.
    You understand that you trolled-away all by yourself? Like, you invent anti-bsd troll just for the sake of need and expectancy. Dr. Jekyll, Mr Hide and all the associated schizophrenia.

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    • #17
      Anti-BSD trolls are common here, so there's not much to invent. I just wanted to deny them before they appear.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Cthulhux View Post
        Anti-BSD trolls are common here, so there's not much to invent. I just wanted to deny them before they appear.
        ironically you made the first troll post in this thread.

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        • #19
          small donation

          Well I made a small donation using Paypal even though I'm not an OpenBSD user. I did install it once just for the heck of it and when I couldn't even get LibreOffice I gave up on it. Still even though I'm just a Linux user today and I don't agree with the BSD license I do want OpenBSD to live.
          If they can get enough people to make some small donations they should be good and it would be a solution if they can't find a sponsor.
          By the way I work for a small distro ( Frugalware ) that probably live on less than $50 a month.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by a user View Post
            ironically you made the first troll post in this thread.
            Ironically you fail to read quotation marks.

            Originally posted by mcirsta View Post
            Still even though I'm just a Linux user today and I don't agree with the BSD license I do want OpenBSD to live.
            That's the spirit!

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            • #21
              By going with the stats that were done years ago, OpenBSD had been more popular than NetBSD. I wonder how the NetBSD camp is doing?

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              • #22
                They just don't care, I presume.

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                • #23
                  OpenBSD is dead. NetCraft, I mean Phoronix, confirms it.

                  Really if building for VAX is the only way they can find bugs, that is pretty sad. They will be forced by economic reality to drop obsolete architectures. Do they really need so many build servers that it costs $20K in electricity a year? That seems like an insane amount. How many servers do they have?
                  Last edited by shaurz; 01-15-2014, 06:26 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by shaurz View Post
                    Really if building for VAX is the only way they can find bugs, that is pretty sad.
                    Apparently, some specific bugs are usually only found when using a different architecture. Sometimes just a different compiler will do it (one of the reasons why having not only GCC, but also LLVM now is a good thing).

                    Anyways, can't they go for a Kickstarter or IndieGoGo campaign to raise some money?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Vim_User View Post
                      Apparently, some specific bugs are usually only found when using a different architecture. Sometimes just a different compiler will do it (one of the reasons why having not only GCC, but also LLVM now is a good thing).

                      Anyways, can't they go for a Kickstarter or IndieGoGo campaign to raise some money?
                      This^

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Vim_User View Post
                        Anyways, can't they go for a Kickstarter or IndieGoGo campaign to raise some money?
                        kickstarter/indiegogo wasn't invented in the 90s, duh!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
                          Where are their proprietary "friends" now?
                          Introducing the ignorant anti-BSD troll Pawlerson who is brutally unaware of the fact that not all of the BSDs have "proprietary friends". OpenBSD takes a very hard line on proprietary software -- much harder than the majority of Linux distributions (it's edged out by Trisquel and other distros that refuse to include any sort of binary firmware).

                          On to the topic. It'll be a shame if the distribution that brought us OpenSSH (yes, that software just about all of you have on your system came from OpenBSD) and Pf amongst many other projects lost its legal entity. I will be donating to them soon, as is the moral duty of all who care about Free Software.

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                          • #28
                            https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate
                            The FreeBSD Foundation is a 501(c)3, United States based, non-profit organization that is committed to supporting and building the FreeBSD Project and community worldwide . . . US-based donations should be fully tax-deductible on your federal return.
                            http://www.netbsd.org/donations/
                            The NetBSD Foundation is a non-profit organization that produces open source software, and has Internal Revenue Code 501(c)(3) status.

                            All donations to the NetBSD Foundation are fully tax-deductible in the US!
                            http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/donations.html
                            The OpenBSD foundation exists as a . . . Canadian federally incorporated not-for-profit corporation, which means funds directed to us must be directed towards our stated objects, other than what we require for operating overhead. We endeavour to keep our overhead as small as possible.

                            We are not a registered charity, in the sense that we do not issue tax deductible receipts. The reporting overhead (accounting and legal costs) to operate a registered charity in Canada is prohibitive without a sizable revenue stream.
                            Perhaps it's time for the OpenBSD Foundation to consider changing its status. It doesn't really matter for smaller donations, but lack of tax deductibility might discourage larger donation amounts.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by JX8p View Post
                              I will be donating to them soon, as is the moral duty of all who care about Free Software.
                              I would think like you if they nearly litterally didn't burn the money...

                              I wonder what's the VAX/IA64/SPARC... vs x86/x86_64 ratio on their bill, I suspect that moving the x86/x86_64 load to cloud/hosting would be cheaper and some hoster might even do it freely.

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                              • #30
                                I am surprised that OpenBSD supports so many architectures. I thought that was NetBSD's special area. Anyway it would be sad to see OpenBSD go, Theo might be a troll sometimes but they made some good contributions to the whole FOSS scene and they care about system security.
                                Even though I too dislike the one-way license (I understand they had to choose this kind of lic. after the lawsuit) I am tempted to give them some money though it won't be that much for I am quite poor myself.
                                Anyway, now it would be the time for all the beneficiaries of OpenBSD (e.g. distros using OpenSSH, firewallmakers using it on their HW) to feed and supply their own source.

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