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    Phoronix: Debian GNU/Hurd 2013 Release Brings New Packages

    While it wasn't part of the Debian 7.0 Wheezy release earlier this month, the GNU non-Linux folks have now put out Debian GNU/Hurd 2013. This operating system pairs the Debian user-land with the GNU Hurd kernel...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTM3NzA

  • #2
    I am looking forward

    "Benchmarks of Debian GNU/Hurd against GNU/Linux and GNU/kFreeBSD are forthcoming on Phoronix."

    Sweet!
    I am really looking forward to it!

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    • #3
      "but still the project is working out to a surprising level"

      It has only taken nearly a quarter of a century.

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      • #4
        Shouldn't it just be Debian GNU? Seems redundant to call it gnu/hurd when hurd is the gnu kernel.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by yogi_berra View Post
          Shouldn't it just be Debian GNU? Seems redundant to call it gnu/hurd when hurd is the gnu kernel.
          good point

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
            Hurd is turd! Repeat after me! Focus on linux!
            Sadly, "focus" and "linux" do not really rhyme.

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            • #7
              Hurd is _not_ turd, you turd

              Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
              Hurd is turd! Repeat after me! Focus on linux!
              I think you're the definition of why "Don't feed the trolls" is a valid statement.

              Linux is a great Kernel, but Hurd has some very interesting and useful features (foremost the translators) which make handling things hard to do with Linux _very_ easy.
              It has taken so long to get a working system, because the Hurd-developers are focusing on constructing a well-designed system, and not focusing on rapid development. Even though the Linux kernel may work good, it is in many ways a fragmented system mainly due to the fact it has undergone heavy development in the last 20 years, which is not easy to keep together well.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
                Hurd is turd! Repeat after me! Focus on linux!
                Oh dear, has Shuttleworth written a blog post about Hurd now?

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                • #9
                  lol

                  Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
                  Why don't you go use hurd instead of linux! This should be a new insult: Go use hurd!

                  wast of time using hurd, after 25 years... use the resources to focus in some who works and have future

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                  • #10
                    lol

                    Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
                    No but why? We have people like .dee who use it as their main OS I'm sure. It would be a tragedy!
                    lol the same guy who criticized the mir in all forums about linux in the world lol

                    hurd lost her chance 20 years ago to linux.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rikkinho View Post
                      wast of time using hurd, after 25 years... use the resources to focus in some who works and have future
                      Who are you to dictate what developers work on in their own time?
                      If they want to work on Hurd, then they can work on it. If they don't want to contribute to Linux, then they don't have to.

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                      • #12
                        Not computing here...

                        Debian has more like 30,000 packages...how is "over 10,000" 75% of that?
                        Or are they citing source packages?


                        Networking the HURD way is bizarre; NetBSD was more similar to Linux than that.
                        On the other hand, the HURD approach to mounting things seems to make some sense (not meaning that settrans is good, but rather that details like user-specific mounts work without any special permissions).

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by yogi_berra View Post
                          Shouldn't it just be Debian GNU? Seems redundant to call it gnu/hurd when hurd is the gnu kernel.
                          Mr. Stallman really likes calling systems userland/kernel.

                          Let's continue!

                          GNU/Linux
                          GNU/Hurd
                          JVM/Linux (jk Android)
                          Apple/Darwin
                          Windows/NT

                          Oh I'm lovin' this.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by asdx
                            What do you guys think of this? Do you agree with him or not? I'm a big fan of Linux and his work (GNU), but I have a hard time understanding what he meant here.

                            I know some people are offended by these comments, but I don't know.

                            What are your thoughts?
                            This isn't really relevant, is it?

                            The man's a complete nutcase, but at least there were a few instances of random genius sprinkled in there. I think he gets most of his attention just because of how insane he is.

                            EDIT: There's another funny quote in that wiki page by the way. He told us at DTU to carefully pronounce his project a GNU with a G to avoid confusion with the animal. Unfortunately, in Danish, the G is pronounced for the animal as well. Quite a few people were having a laugh!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
                              So basically Microsoft will win every argument. The only thing they need to do to bury everything open source is just tell people that Richard Stallman started it all and quote him on those things. I wonder why they didn't try that already. It would be a perfect slander campaign and would turn a lot of people from trying linux.
                              It’s not like they did not try that. But it fell short when people realized that “I see little evidence that…” does not say “do it”. Stallman is quite careful with words and has full-length articles on most of his quotes.
                              Last edited by ArneBab; 05-23-2013, 08:41 AM.

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