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  • #46
    Originally posted by Mike Frett View Post
    I find that it's really sad we are arguing with each other, communities of Alternative Operating Systems need to pull together and stop fighting.
    BSD fuckers are the cause of this, they are the ones who started flaming and FUDing about open source, Linux and the FSF.

    I don't know if any of you realized it yet, but you got Microsoft riding all our backs trying hard to pull some 007 stuff on us and wipe us out. Fighting each other only gives them more hope that we will be destroyed.
    BSD actually helps Microsoft and Apple. They fight with Linux and try to sabotage us.

    BSD actually holds back Linux by making open source devs waste their time on making thier software portable and not taking advantage of powerful Linux specific features. Just take a look at what KDE devs say: BSD annoy as so much effort has to be spread on portability for an OS that almost doesn't exists on thier usage pie chart. (kraftman has got more info on this, he'll provide the link if you ask him)

    So as supporters of Freedom and Open source, the enemy as Apple, Microsoft and BSD.

    And yes, BSD has some real issues and I think it comes with the territory, meaning Linux is quickly rising and BSD seems to of lost out quite a bit. It's sad, but what you BSD guys need to do is assess the situation on your end and embark on some workarounds. Put your heads together, I believe you can do it. Losing a member of the Free Software community would be a bad thing, I wish you all the best of luck.
    BSD is not part of the Free Software community, they are part of a society (consisting of Minix, Dawin, Opensolaris, Openillumois and OpenIndiana) who believe that it should be easy to make proprietary software and take away people's freedoms so it's a good thing to take down a member of that society.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Akka View Post
      Do anyone besides a few hobbyist care about bsd anymore? (no osx isn't bsd)
      Even hobbyists don't use BSD anymore.

      I get the impression they lost most of the support they had in the server market? Is Yahoos use is shrinking?
      Yahoo doesn't use "Free"BSD anymore.

      They use Linux!!!!!


      Besides some embedded stuff is it used anywhere in notable number commercially today?
      BSD is not even used in embedded stuff. The kernels are too heavy and unportable.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by yogi_berra View Post
        Linux users. They are lost without a gui.
        BSD fuckers. They are lost with thier license.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by tangram View Post
          I think we can all agree on one thing: this forum is in serious need of moderation. Reading some of the posts in this thread makes me wonder how mankind even left caves.
          This isn't BSD forums.

          Free speech and human rights are respected here.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by onicsis View Post
            Flamewars like Linux vs BSD should not ever exist.
            BSD fuckers started these flamewars. If you don't want them, remove the BSD fuckers

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            • #51
              Originally posted by yogi_berra View Post
              You'd think that, but you'd be wrong. The biggest threat to Linux is it's user base. As evidenced by this forum.
              No, the biggest threat to Linux is BSD and thier fuckers.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by systemd rulez View Post
                The correct acronym for BSD is Bitches Sucking Dicks
                I think you're not only homophobic but also sexist. In any way, you're quite disgusting.

                Originally posted by systemd rulez View Post
                Keep dreaming, BSD only supports NVidia drivers 10 years out of date and the last time I checked, There's no OpenGL support. Only Linux OpenGL to run on pathetic linux compat layer which doesn't work property and causes X to support after 10 seconds
                You obviously don't keep up with the website to this forum:
                http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...ames_bsd&num=3
                (I think it was because of compositing back then)

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by systemd rulez View Post
                  BSD fuckers. They are lost with thier license.
                  It is quite simple (although way above your limited horizon): If you don't like permissive licenses then simply don't use software with a permissive license. It is open source, just remove it from your system and replace it with similar GPL licensed software.

                  Let us know how it works for you, maybe more of the BSD haters want to change.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by systemd rulez View Post
                    No, the biggest threat to Linux is BSD and thier fuckers.
                    How can BSD be biggest threat to Linux, if BSD is dead?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by windows using troll View Post
                      human rights are respected here.
                      And I quote:

                      Originally posted by windows using troll
                      The correct acronym for BSD is Bitches Sucking Dicks
                      You're a moron.

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                      • #56
                        Do not feed the trolls...

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by yogi_berra View Post
                          Linux users. They are lost without a gui.
                          Really? I use Linux because I have a love of the CLI (well... Emulated ones where I can have multiple sessions or a TTY with screen on it not that single user/program crap). Making such claims is dubious at best.

                          To the poster of Linux users are it's enemy. Well I have seen many elitist attitudes from Windows users as well as OSX/IOS that was far more berating than even what Capt. Crazy has posted. Doesn't seem to harm their platform so why are Linux elitist worse than those of other systems? Unless you were just being funny in that case dismiss the preceding statement.

                          Originally posted by DanL View Post
                          Do not feed the trolls...
                          They don't put "Please do not feed bear signs!" there for no reasons this forum needs a pop up warning before allowing a post...

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by onicsis View Post
                            The biggest threat to Linux is not BSD, Mac OS or even Windows is EVIL Patent System. Large companies like Google IBM or HP, Linux friendly in day to day life, support that system who threatens in the long term the entier Open Source World.
                            No. Patents are not a threat, unless they are misused. And they are misused a lot - there is a dire need of reform. Patents should be completely free to use for opensource project and have 5-year validity tops for commercial projects, including using opensource software for that goal. Key technology and any "standards" should never be patented. This way, the inventor will have possibility to gain profit for invention, but only where it applies, without blockades.


                            Originally posted by onicsis View Post
                            Flamewars like Linux vs BSD should not ever exist.
                            They spark exactly where the difference lies.

                            BSD is closed source supporter and, because of that, second class OS.
                            Usually those closed source "BSD brethren" are those interested in patent misuse and in proprietary everything with DRM to the max (like Apple banning whoever they desire).

                            GPL is not and is against that. GPL does not simply "advertize" freedom, it protects it. This is why GPL is banned by Apple and Microsoft as well as hated by BSD. GPL freedom protection will disallow them to condone their dirty work, thus proving that BSD folk care a crap about freedom.

                            BSD is pseudofreedom, GPL is freedom. When judgement day comes, holy RMS will exorcise the split-tongue beasts and right now they rage about it.

                            Be aware, that GPL supporters have nothing against proprietary software, but they do have problem when proprietary masks itself as freedom software, thus misusing it.
                            Last edited by brosis; 02-10-2013, 05:19 PM.

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                            • #59
                              Again, it is in fact very simple: If you don't like permissive licenses then don't use them. You don't need to license your software under such a license and if you don't want to nobody is forcing you to use software that has a permissive license. Just go ahead, remove any permissive licensed software from your system and replace it with GPL software. Possibly you will have to write some of those replacements in the first place, like your X server for example.

                              Arguing against permissive licenses, but posting from a system that makes extensive use of them is at least hypocritical, if not just an asshole move.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by brosis View Post
                                BSD is closed source supporter and, because of that, second class OS.
                                Usually those closed source "BSD brethren" are those interested in patent misuse and in proprietary everything with DRM to the max (like Apple banning whoever they desire).

                                GPL is not and is against that. GPL does not simply "advertize" freedom, it protects it. This is why GPL is banned by Apple and Microsoft as well as hated by BSD. GPL freedom protection will disallow them to condone their dirty work, thus proving that BSD folk care a crap about freedom.
                                You are just plain wrong... Remember the academic origins of BSD; its license, therefore, was motivated by the academy. All this predates the whole "my license is more free than yours" bullshit. Any way, this proves that BSD doesn't hate GPL, and that BSD does not support closed source; this is impossible, since BSD predates all this. So, you can see GNU/GPL as anti-proprietary movements, while BSD is really proprietary-agnostic; yes, you can 'steal' BSD code, but that was not the motivation for BSD.
                                Perhaps Unix took code from BSD, but also remember that their goal was to have a free (non AT&T) Unix, so they were actually fighting for freedom many years before Linux, GNU, FSF, etc.
                                Originally posted by brosis View Post
                                BSD is pseudofreedom, GPL is freedom.
                                That's just your opinion; who are you to impose the definition of freedom to me?

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