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  • #91
    Originally posted by ryao View Post
    Solaris is based on the original UNIX.
    Well so is Mac OS, technically. What's your point?

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Sergio View Post
      Damn... do I have to read your f*cking trolling again? You didn't have to come back, you know; I'm pretty sure nobody missed you.
      tip just put them on your ignore list, then if people could just stop feeding the trolls you won't see anything by them any more (now you see the quoted text in replies).

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      • #93
        Originally posted by scjet View Post
        Actually there was, (sort-of-getting-there), it was called "OpenSolaris", that is, until Oracle stepped in, and "Closed" ALL the doors. !

        What we really need now is: "OpenHardware" -did you hear that Nvidia, ... ???!!!
        Here you go:

        http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/sy...arc/index.html

        Originally posted by dee. View Post
        Well so is Mac OS, technically. What's your point?
        If you look in header files on Solaris, you will see Bell Labs copyrights. If you look in header files on Mac OS X, you will header Reagents of the University of California copyrights. Mac OS X is based on BSD/Mach. It has no UNIX code.
        Last edited by ryao; 01-27-2013, 08:24 AM.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by ryao View Post
          If you look in header files on Solaris, you will see Bell Labs copyrights. If you look in header files on Mac OS X, you will header Reagents of the University of California copyrights. Mac OS X is based on BSD/Mach. It has no UNIX code.
          But BSD is technically based on UNIX as well. So MacOS is indirectly based on UNIX. That doesn't matter though. The point was about the original UNIX, not any of it's derivatives. If the original UNIX had been completely open source, with a GPL-type license even, the world would be very different today.

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          • #95
            OpenNutz

            Originally posted by dee. View Post
            No I mean the original UNIX. Like if it had been GPL-licensed from the start (and if GPL had been invented back then).

            Also, open hardware is already a Thing, and it's going to be an even bigger Thing in the coming years. Just wait when the first crowdfunded open-source ARMv8 SoC:s are produced, we're going to have fun with them. This I predict by looking into my crystal balls.
            Really?, so I guess crystal ball forgot to predict this: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTEwNTQ ?, and unfortunately many other gravestones, just like it.

            If "THEY" eventually manage to "kill/lock-up" the laptop and PC, like they recently killed/locked-up the Cellphone, and "Tablet". then I forsee in my Xtal Balls, that without a true PC-replacement "OpenHardare" initiative, then there won't be many (future Home PC's / Laptops, ...) devices left,
            that we'll be able to install Linux/BSD on ?

            Unless of course, the *ix's continually give into more, and more binary blobs.... but that's just suicide, in the end.

            Somehow, somewhere, the great "stallman's, torvalds', ..., must have forgotten, that OpenSoftware can only be as good as OpenHardware, (and visa-versa).
            Anything else, is just a car, without a license to use the transmission in it, and therefore -dead-end !

            But then again, Openhardware will never obviously appeal to big-Investors...

            But yes, nonetheless, i wholeheartedly agree that we desperatley need openhardware,
            "... to be an even bigger Thing..." -than it ever was.

            In summary, we now, more than ever, need a Linus Torvalds, or similar, to be the "Henry Ford of OpenHardware", for the masses. !
            Last edited by scjet; 01-30-2013, 11:00 AM. Reason: typo

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            • #96
              Originally posted by scjet View Post
              Really?, so I guess crystal ball forgot to predict this: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTEwNTQ ?, and unfortunately many other gravestones, just like it.

              If "THEY" eventually manage to "kill/lock-up" the laptop and PC, like they recently killed/locked-up the Cellphone, and "Tablet". then I forsee in my Xtal Balls, that without a true PC-replacement "OpenHardare" initiative, then there won't be many (future Home PC's / Laptops, ...) devices left,
              that we'll be able to install Linux/BSD on ?

              Unless of course, the *ix's continually give into more, and more binary blobs.... but that's just suicide, in the end.

              Somehow, somewhere, the great "stallman's, torvalds', ..., must have forgotten, that OpenSoftware can only be as good as OpenHardware, (and visa-versa).
              Anything else, is just a car, without a license to use the transmission in it, and therefore -dead-end !

              But then again, Openhardware will never obviously appeal to big-Investors...

              But yes, nonetheless, i wholeheartedly agree that we desperatley need openhardware,
              "... to be an even bigger Thing..." -than it ever was.

              In summary, we now, more than ever, need a Linus Torvalds, or similar, to be the "Henry Ford of OpenHardware", for the masses. !
              You might like this:

              http://www.opencompute.org/

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              • #97
                Originally posted by ryao View Post
                You might like this:

                http://www.opencompute.org/
                yep, exactly, the more the merrier, but, (as i explicity said before), PC/Desktop/Laptop/Ma and Pa/-wise,..., the real "STONE" is the video card / GPU / 3D-gimme-it-mama, multimedia ... FIRST. That's the first stone that's gotta be laid, and/or cast.
                If I can't see it or hear it?, then I don't want it dude !

                ...and, Without that, Linux/BSD will always be a continual/developmental "niche" phenomenom, simply for wanna-be dev's to sharpen their teeth for the what -rainbow ? -what freekin' rainbow ? -comon !?
                The complete, and recent, "LOCKING" of ALL Tablet's has NOT helped us at all, in fact, they just said NO -you cannot install your OS/Software of choice, NO jailbreaks' for you sonny.... haha.
                Really? -and just like that ? - arghhh.

                It's not enough to replace Windows, Apple, ..., we-(BSD/Linux) need to be "Open"ly better, in ALL future aspects, devices, ..., everywhere, for everyone. !
                ...and NOT just the same old "regulated/permissable" NICHES' ?

                Actually, forget Torvalds, we actually need another "Bill Joy", (but this time) for OpenHardware -atleast "HE" (in the past, for right or wrong reasons) accomplished BOTH, and built his UNIX-hardware for his (BSD/Solaris)OS, and visa-versa -the same HE created.
                OpenHardware must be pushed and used as much as Linux/BSD is today, otherwise, Open* will eventually be dead, except for whatever the cookie-crumb-gratuitous existing (closed-proprietary) Corps' "lend" us. <- pfffft?!

                Don't get me wrong, I do NOT mind paying for it, I just want "it's>" drivers/firmware/whatever... to work in *BSD, and/or Linux. ya, why not ?

                There is NO "icing" on this cake man.
                Last edited by scjet; 01-31-2013, 11:19 AM.

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                • #98
                  This is better than the Zoo

                  Originally posted by BSD SUCKS DICKS View Post
                  PKGNG (which stands for PacKaGe NigGer).
                  HAHAHAHA x'D

                  Who was the genius who first said "don't feed the troll"? Here sweety, keep doing your stuff =)

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                  • #99
                    Retards everywhere...

                    Originally posted by BSD SUCKS DICKS View Post
                    I agree, just take a look at their latest propaganda:

                    http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/r...01/FreeBSD.jpg

                    This hear is evidence that BSD people hate Linux. And we as Linux users and supporters must stand up against them and beat them back.

                    Teach them a lesson and confiscate their source code, remove the BSD license and put GPL on it and give the source code to the Linux foundation.

                    Also if the FSF principles make it to law (Which I hope they will) they should make sure that anyone who develops and/or uses BSD or follow their practices of licensing software under the BSD license should be put in jail. (I'm serious)
                    Now, seriously... is this kind of stuff true? What the fuck happens to people?
                    A bit of trolling is somewhat funny and help keep all involved parties push forward (and harder!) but this kind of crap, from both sides... Jesus man!

                    One would think that this kind of stuff is only seen between primitive people with very little to no education at all, you know, the kind of people that can stab each other because they just don't like how the other one looks at him/her, but between computer users!? WTF!
                    I would never expect something like this (and I'm not talking about this BSD SUCKS idiot) from people with the tools to not only operate a computer but actually learn it's internals.

                    The world is rotten more than I can imagine >

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                    • Originally posted by kov3n View Post
                      Now, seriously... is this kind of stuff true? What the fuck happens to people?
                      A bit of trolling is somewhat funny and help keep all involved parties push forward (and harder!) but this kind of crap, from both sides... Jesus man!

                      One would think that this kind of stuff is only seen between primitive people with very little to no education at all, you know, the kind of people that can stab each other because they just don't like how the other one looks at him/her, but between computer users!? WTF!
                      I would never expect something like this (and I'm not talking about this BSD SUCKS idiot) from people with the tools to not only operate a computer but actually learn it's internals.

                      The world is rotten more than I can imagine >
                      This is how BSD people behave. And they do it more so then ever because linux is far more popular and killing BSD.

                      Most of these people are actually criminals who violate the GPL on a regular basis.

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                      • Originally posted by systemd rulez View Post
                        Most of these people are actually criminals who violate the GPL on a regular basis.
                        Present some evidences before you call a whole community criminals, troll. Your trolling is still inferior to what Phoronix already has seen, learn more before you come back.

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                        • Originally posted by Vim_User View Post
                          Present some evidences before you call a whole community criminals, troll. Your trolling is still inferior to what Phoronix already has seen, learn more before you come back.
                          Call me what ever you like, BSD zealot/troll/luser. Your the one and is the troll and I'm just telling what I researched.

                          Trolling at Phoronix? You mean people just talking about the truths about BSD and how shit it is? If you don't like that don't join phoronix forums. This forum from what I seen repects free speech. If you don't like that fuk off to BSD forums where they only allow you to post things they like (not even questions).

                          Come back here once you suck it up cry bitch.

                          If you want evidence that BSD steals GPL software look here: http://antibsd.wordpress.com/2013/01/30/history-of-bsd/

                          Back at Berkeley, supporters of Bill Joy’s idea continued to work on BSD mainly by taking code from the GNU project lead by Richard Stallman, removing the GPL and replacing it with their BSD license. By that time, the GNU was almost a complete OS (it still lacked a kernel). This actually gave BSD the ability to developed a full OS with minimum effort (yes that’s right BSD owes GNU a lot. Without GNU, BSD would not have existed which is really sad as GNU was made to free people while BSD or more correctly BDSM was made to enslave pean ople).
                          and: http://antibsd.wordpress.com/2013/01/25/20/
                          Since, de Raadt has been in charge of the OpenBSD project which claim to “produce some of the most secure code” while at the same time, taking GPL code to make into their own.
                          and also: http://antibsd.wordpress.com/2013/02...bians-apt-get/
                          By the way for those who don’t know what a jail is, jails are a feature originally designed by Linux developer Daniel Lezcano (the creator of LXC) which was then stolen by FreeBSD project member Poul Henning-Kamp to implement on FreeBSD. FreeBSD jails functions similarity to Linux chroots but are far more insecure.

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                          • Originally posted by systemd rulez View Post
                            Call me what ever you like, BSD zealot/troll/luser. Your the one and is the troll and I'm just telling what I researched.

                            Trolling at Phoronix? You mean people just talking about the truths about BSD and how shit it is? If you don't like that don't join phoronix forums. This forum from what I seen repects free speech. If you don't like that fuk off to BSD forums where they only allow you to post things they like (not even questions).

                            Come back here once you suck it up cry bitch.

                            If you want evidence that BSD steals GPL software look here: http://antibsd.wordpress.com/2013/01/30/history-of-bsd/



                            and: http://antibsd.wordpress.com/2013/01/25/20/


                            and also: http://antibsd.wordpress.com/2013/02...bians-apt-get/
                            I noticed that the blog you cited has no citations, furthermore the writing style is simplistic and biased, much like your own posts.
                            So I theorise that it was, in fact you, who wrote these articles.
                            So, show us proof for these claims or show us another, cited source, where people in the BSD community 'violate the GPL on a regular basis.'

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                            • Originally posted by intellivision View Post
                              I noticed that the blog you cited has no citations, furthermore the writing style is simplistic and biased, much like your own posts.
                              So I theorise that it was, in fact you, who wrote these articles.
                              That's a pathetic reason for thinking that I am those posts. It's more probably you're just trying to get me banned as I didn't talk good things about BSD. Why don't you just suck it up.

                              And besides, I don't have the time or endurance to write such long articles so those post are clearly not mine. It's more like a lot of poeple don't like BSD because it's shit.

                              So, show us proof for these claims or show us another, cited source, where people in the BSD community 'violate the GPL on a regular basis.'
                              Here: http://trl.ca/2007/04/theo-de-raadt-...gpl-violation/

                              On April 4, 2007, Linux software driver developer Michael Buesch revealed that other programmers working on the OpenBSD operating system had copied code licensed under GNU Public License v.2 (GPL), incorporated it into their own code, and released the result under the incompatible BSD license without asking permission. In addition to violating the terms of the GPL, which requires that the GPL license remain attached to any GPL’d code, OpenBSD’s actions have placed the open source code at risk to be used (and closed) by proprietary software vendors.

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                              • Originally posted by systemd rulez View Post
                                Call me what ever you like, BSD zealot/troll/luser. Your the one and is the troll and I'm just telling what I researched.

                                Trolling at Phoronix? You mean people just talking about the truths about BSD and how shit it is? If you don't like that don't join phoronix forums. This forum from what I seen repects free speech. If you don't like that fuk off to BSD forums where they only allow you to post things they like (not even questions).

                                Come back here once you suck it up cry bitch.

                                If you want evidence that BSD steals GPL software look here: http://antibsd.wordpress.com/2013/01/30/history-of-bsd/



                                and: http://antibsd.wordpress.com/2013/01/25/20/


                                and also: http://antibsd.wordpress.com/2013/02...bians-apt-get/
                                Funny how moderator 'JS987' says that "He is only posting his opinions like anyone else. He can't sabotage forums this way" and also that he won't do anything about it because "People have right for different opinion. You can add him to ignore list".

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