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  • #46
    Originally posted by joe_gunner View Post
    How long has Linux had corporate backing? I think it's quite pathetic that in all these years they haven't made a good desktop, while the BSDs are still chugging along with mere donations.
    Bah, what is this nonsense? There is no 'Linux' entity which decides on what to work on, there are corporations hiring full-time developers and there are individual contributors. The work they do mirrors the need of those corporations and those individuals. And as we've seen the focus of their needs is not the desktop.

    The only real money thrown at putting Linux on the mainstream end user desktop is that of Ubuntu, personally I think that their efforts have benefited Linux greatly although I find some of their recent maneuvers very clumsy.

    Looking past this we are now seeing this new exploding market of mobile computing which is reducing alot of the need the general populace have for desktop/laptop pc's.

    And here Linux is amazingly well positioned thanks to Android in particular, and in a way so is BSD as parts of FreeBSD is used in iOS (AFAIK). Sadly that doesn't seem to benefit FreeBSD particularly. One would think that Apple could atleast sponsor FreeBSD as a donor given that they ship millions upon millions of devices using FreeBSD code, meanwhile Google which base pretty much all their stuff on Linux is a platinum sponsor of FreeBSD. Go figure.

    Originally posted by joe_gunner View Post
    Linux could afford to employ at least 10 Dillons and McKusicks to lead the development. I think there is a significant difference in mentality between Linux and BSD. Linux: politics first, code second. BSD: code first, politics second.
    Ehh? I won't throw shit at the BSD's cause I think they are great projects, but Linux started out as a hobby project with no financial backing whatsoever, attracted individual developers who hacked away, corporate development came once the project was useable and it's not as if there was a lot of that either at the beginning. Cygnus and Red Hat came aboard early (Red Hat later bought Cygnus) and have been along for the entire ride but they were small fry back then. Nowadays there's IBM, Intel, Google, etc etc but Linux started from scratch as nothing but an enthusiast project.

    As for the 'politics' remark, seriously? Have you read the mailing list posts pertaining to Mathew Dillon embarking on his Dragonfly BSD fork, do you know who Theo de Radt is and how he came to leave NetBSD (which he co-founded) to create the OpenBSD fork.

    No, there is certainly no less amount of politics in the BSD sphere, this comes with the territory however. People are different, developers are different, their goals are different.

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    • #47
      Just in case it wasn't obvious, I was trolling in response to the other Linux trolls.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View Post
        I think someone here is talking to himself - three accounts with similar names, similar join dates, and similar amounts of posts.
        Lol, you are right. And he really is answering to himself...

        It's reassuring, that there aren't that many trolls - just a very busy one.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by BSD Sucks and Dies
          This is part of the way how operating systems technology advances by making sure that people do not hog on to technologically backward software like BSD and thus stall progress in advancement of advance and superior technologies like Linux and GNU.
          GNU/Linux über alles,
          Über alles in der Welt!


          One Operating System!
          One Compiler!
          One License!

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          • #50
            Design wise, I find BSD better thought out then Linux. Linux is currently more developed though.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by joe_gunner View Post
              Just in case it wasn't obvious, I was trolling in response to the other Linux trolls.
              That does not make it right.

              And it looks like we have an anti-linux puppet account now....

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              • #52
                I am not anti-Linux. I am currently considering BSD the superior infrastructure, that's all. My vserver runs Debian.

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                • #53
                  Not everyone who is pro-BSD is anti-Linux. This is no "black and white" even if you try (and fail) to force this.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by BSD Sucks and Dies
                    Once again, please rather to your previous comments.
                    I do. And I also refer to your nickname. You are anti-BSD and nothing else. All you are posting is ridiculous anti-BSD flaming. Nothing with any kind of knowledge or at least arguments.

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                    • #55
                      I could maybe take you more serious if you had a serious nickname. But the only reason I still talk to you is because I love clowns.
                      Maybe you might want to try more arguments than just "boo-hoo BSD is so bad". In optimum case, some which are actually true.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by LinuxNazi View Post
                        GNU/Linux über alles,
                        Über alles in der Welt!


                        One Operating System!
                        One Compiler!
                        One License!
                        Don't misuse the Deutschlandlied for such words.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by BSD Sucks and Dies
                          Trying to get people banned because they don't agree with and also one number you is a really childish way to win a debate. It's something the moderator in forums.freebsd.org would do just because he doesn't agree with multiple comments.

                          With the logic you used, I can conclude that you (Hamish Wilson), Ren Hoek and joe_gunner are actually one people which I trust it isn't, isn't it?

                          So stop your lies.
                          Where did I say you should be banned? Although, it does really seem like you are using puppet accounts. One should note how these posters seem to come in groups, with there posts being very close to each other.

                          EDIT: Also, no you could not. Very different join dates, names, and post numbers.
                          Last edited by Hamish Wilson; 12-13-2012, 04:44 PM.

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                          • #58
                            Jeeez, stop feeding the obvious troll. You don't need an IP comparison to figure out that 'BSD Sucks and Dies' and 'BSD Bullshitdistro' is the same guy, also you don't need a degree in 'internet' to realize that with account names like that it's someone just looking to start flamewars.

                            Sometimes it's hard to know if someone is actually trolling or is just plain deluded, but seriously what we have here could be in the dictionary under 'internet-troll'. Just ignore him. Please.

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                            • #59
                              I would, but trolling the trolls is rather fun to me. It would not be a good idea to just let him spread his desinformation. People could actually believe him.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Cthulhux View Post
                                I would, but trolling the trolls is rather fun to me. It would not be a good idea to just let him spread his desinformation. People could actually believe him.
                                I know very well the urge to respond to people spreading lies, but really can anyone possibly take this retard seriously? I just can't see it.

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