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    Phoronix: OS X 10.8 vs. Ubuntu Linux: A Battle With No Clear Winner

    Since Apple released OX X 10.8 "Mountain Lion" last month, there have been tests going on at Phoronix of this latest Apple operating system not only on the Retina MacBook Pro, but other Mac hardware as well. In this article is a comparison of OS X 10.8 versus Ubuntu Linux -- when trying out both Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and the latest Ubuntu 12.10 development version.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=17801

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    Linux wins at nearly everything but graphics related work. Just goes to show how far behind Linux drivers are compared to OS X.

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    • #3
      please in your title please write that THIS TEST ITS TRUE JUST FOR MAC NOT FOR PC BECUASE YOU DONT TEST IT IN OSX AND UBUNTU IN PC!!!

      soo please please please bold that its just for MAC computers

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Dukenukemx View Post
        Linux wins at nearly everything but graphics related work. Just goes to show how far behind Linux drivers are compared to OS X.
        On the bright side, it shows how mature the other facets of the linux/gnu/debian stack have become.

        I am 'really' surprised by just how big the OGL performance difference is, though significant gains have been made on intel/mesa which may not yet be incorporated into U12.10.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by nir2142 View Post
          please in your title please write that THIS TEST ITS TRUE JUST FOR MAC NOT FOR PC BECUASE YOU DONT TEST IT IN OSX AND UBUNTU IN PC!!!

          soo please please please bold that its just for MAC computers
          The mac is just a PC from Apple.
          In Germany you can run legally tun OS X on a non Apple, but don't know it for the rest of the world.

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          • #6
            I don't think SNA has been enabled in Ubuntu 12.10, yet. Since from yesterday's benchmarks, which were tested on the mac mini http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag..._intel21&num=1, the graphics performance on every benchmark went up, yet in these benchmarks we see that the graphics performance for 12.10 goes down in comparison to 12.04, which makes me believe that SNA was not enabled. If it was, then the graphics performance of linux would have been a bit better and more comparable to the OSX graphics stack.

            The upcoming OS X 10.8 vs. Microsoft Windows 7 Pro vs. Ubuntu 12.04 vs. Ubuntu 12.10 vs. Ubuntu 12.10 + Git should be more representative of linux performance vs other OS's.

            Could someone comment on this?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Dukenukemx View Post
              Linux wins at nearly everything but graphics related work. Just goes to show how far behind Linux drivers are compared to OS X.
              How can you be sure its driver related? NVIDIA (and I suspect other devs) uses the same base driver code for all the major OS's, so why is Linux performance THAT much worse?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by gamerk2 View Post
                How can you be sure its driver related? NVIDIA (and I suspect other devs) uses the same base driver code for all the major OS's, so why is Linux performance THAT much worse?
                Composited desktop with unity?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Thaodan View Post
                  The mac is just a PC from Apple.
                  In Germany you can run legally tun OS X on a non Apple, but don't know it for the rest of the world.

                  you right but its not the point if you do benchmarks it must be done in "neutral computer" you can't create benchmarks that the computer (mac) from apple and also the osx from apple its not "real" benchmarks or its not objective.

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                  • #10
                    While it's entirely possible is SB's driver lagging on Linux (I do recall something being absent or lagging in a article not too long ago), I was also thinking it's probably because of Unity's noted effects on FPS. I want to see some cross reference for this as these numbers are fishy.

                    Xonotic with Ubuntu
                    1920x1080 =(12.67 L) (9.01 H)
                    2560x1440 =(12.66 L) (9.03 H)

                    These numbers are too close for having the extra workload and having it perform better at a higher resolution on high is whack all over.. Somethings gone wrong.

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                    • #11
                      For upcoming Opengl tests, can you please do it with and without unity?

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                      • #12
                        Thanks for the head to head.

                        I was rather surprised at the poor graphics performance of Linux because Apple isn't known for high performance graphic. Honestly I was expecting Linux to do better,there. Probably should be some testing done with closed source drivers.

                        What I find most pleasing is the excellent performance of XCode with Clang. I would have to say the Apple should be very happy that a compiler that has barely matured does so well.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dukenukemx View Post
                          Linux wins at nearly everything but graphics related work. Just goes to show how far behind Linux drivers are compared to OS X.
                          Not Linux drivers, but just Intel driver. I bet Linux will kill apple with nVidia or Ati.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by nir2142 View Post
                            you right but its not the point if you do benchmarks it must be done in "neutral computer" you can't create benchmarks that the computer (mac) from apple and also the osx from apple its not "real" benchmarks or its not objective.
                            What exactly do you mean?

                            Michael is benchmarking the performance of Linux to the performance of OSX running on two examples of Apple hardware. True OSX is in its "native" territory and has optimizations in place to take advantage of the hardware, but Linux has other optimizations that Apple may not have considered. If benchmarks running Windows 7/8 or Solaris were included, they would have other optimizations that their respective publishers found important for the hardware at hand.

                            My Apple hardware is a pc like any other that can be purchased from HP, Asus, et al. Sure the hardware can be a little pricey, but I find it extremely rugged and capable for my needs. I do not need to limit myself to running OSX and contrary to popular belief, can run any OS that supports my hardware even eliminating OSX is I desire.

                            Articles like this are great to see and are the reason I keep visiting Phoronix. I see Linux as being a "neutral" platform for testing hardware, specifically, processors.
                            Last edited by heinsj24; 08-25-2012, 04:48 PM. Reason: Kudos for Phoronix

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dukenukemx View Post
                              Linux wins at nearly everything but graphics related work. Just goes to show how far behind Linux drivers are compared to OS X.
                              Most people buy a computer to use for a) writing, b) browsing the net, c) mailing d) chat. Some insignificant number of users also do it for e) games and f) software development.

                              Graphics at 1080p is more than adequate, it is superb. Higher resolution buys very little to nothing.

                              If you are a gamer, than speed of graphics is important. Here it is important, but for very very few individuals.

                              Now look at the difference in costs. A standard laptop or desktop is about half the price of an Apple device for hardware.
                              With Linux, the software is free, and includes the a-f above, and if you need more, you may choose from thousands of free programs, from database to games to statistical packages.

                              The cost of ownership for a business or a student, over 4+ years does not make the Apple a winner.

                              Linux users are delighted with what they have. Apple users are delighted with what they have.

                              The true measure is the difference in costs.

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