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    Phoronix: Apple Mac OS X 10.7.4 Lion vs. Ubuntu Linux

    Before Apple releases Mac OS X 10.8 "Mountain Lion" next month, here's a look at how the latest point release of Mac OS X 10.7 "Lion" is performing compared to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" and the latest development snapshot of Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" Linux.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=17504

  • #2
    Apple is evil. Do not buy their products. Do not advertise for them. Do not mention them at all.
    It's like going into jail by free will because it's so cozy there.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by mazumoto View Post
      Apple is evil. Do not buy their products. Do not advertise for them. Do not mention them at all.
      It's like going into jail by free will because it's so cozy there.
      Can't say that I agree with that. I think Apple is just someone who makes shiny hardware, they're nothing 'evil' like Microsoft.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by M1kkko View Post
        Can't say that I agree with that. I think Apple is just someone who makes shiny hardware, they're nothing 'evil' like Microsoft.
        They're both evil, but MS is much worse. Good to see Ubuntu destroyed OS X. Btw. it's quite surprising Ubuntu was faster in many graphic tests while using Intel graphic card.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by kraftman View Post
          They're both evil, but MS is much worse. Good to see Ubuntu destroyed OS X. Btw. it's quite surprising Ubuntu was faster in many graphic tests while using Intel graphic card.
          How are MS worse?

          (but I don't think either of them is evil..)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Akka View Post
            How are MS worse?

            (but I don't think either of them is evil..)
            Oh wow, you must be young and new. Luckly, there's plenty of sources of why MS is evil. Enlighten yourself


            As for apple, it's a mixed bag.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by kraftman View Post
              They're both evil, but MS is much worse. Good to see Ubuntu destroyed OS X. Btw. it's quite surprising Ubuntu was faster in many graphic tests while using Intel graphic card.
              I think "destroyed" is debatable, much as I prefer to use Ubuntu as my personal OS, I'm jealous of the polish put into OSX and it's suite of apps.

              I know the comparisons are all about PTS, but I think it would be nice to compare all the OSs from a functionality point of view.

              Take typical home user actions (burn a CD, upload files to cloud storage, record TV, play games, streaming media to DLNA compliant devices) and compare the OSs that are (or seem to be, just my opinion) tailored to the home user (Ubuntu, Win7, OSX, Mint)

              Quantifying "performance" is just subjective, but I think that's the part of OSX that Ubuntu is really competing with, not how fast it can read a disk.

              Still.... WOOHOO WINNAR!!!

              J.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Akka View Post
                How are MS worse?

                (but I don't think either of them is evil..)
                Apple's problem:
                They overcharge for old products and patent every little thing they can possibly think of to sue companies (including those who make parts for them such as Samsung) with every chance they get. I don't find apple to be evil but they're blatantly assholes. Steve Jobs' personality matched his company, so with him gone and Tim Cook taking the lead, I'm already noticing some differences.

                MS's problem:
                Oh.... where to begin. They're probably one of the most anticompetitive modern companies ever formed. In the beginning, they stole code from other developers, published the code themselves, and sued the original developers into oblivion. Back in the day, they blackmailed companies like Apple (hell, even Intel got blackmailed at one point) by saying "All Macs must ship with IE pre-installed or else we will stop making MS Office releases for Mac". Then there's things like how MS would find something with immense potential to be popular, but is only supported on a different platform. MS would buy out the company supporting it (for example, Bungee). Then there's MS's classic anticompetitive tactic which is known as Embrace Expand Exterminate, where MS out of the blue decides they love a product that they used to despise, then they actively start developing toward it, and once they get just enough of their code pushed in there to make a difference, they sue the hell out of any supporting companies due to some tiny hole in the licensing of the entire product. This has completely crumbled several companies or otherwise badly crippled others (such as Sun Microsystems). This tactic scares me because they appear to be doing it to linux right now, I'm just not really sure how they think they can get away with it.

                As for anything MS can't compete against, they just buy out the company, like Skype.

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                • #9
                  Look at how awful the color scheme of Ubuntu is when placed next to OS X.

                  Is it me? Do I not know what looks good and what doesn't?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Akka View Post
                    How are MS worse?

                    (but I don't think either of them is evil..)
                    Then you know nothing. MS is much worse, because it has monopoly and Linux kicked them hard in other markets.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RoboJ1M View Post
                      I think "destroyed" is debatable, much as I prefer to use Ubuntu as my personal OS, I'm jealous of the polish put into OSX and it's suite of apps.

                      I know the comparisons are all about PTS, but I think it would be nice to compare all the OSs from a functionality point of view.

                      Take typical home user actions (burn a CD, upload files to cloud storage, record TV, play games, streaming media to DLNA compliant devices) and compare the OSs that are (or seem to be, just my opinion) tailored to the home user (Ubuntu, Win7, OSX, Mint)

                      Quantifying "performance" is just subjective, but I think that's the part of OSX that Ubuntu is really competing with, not how fast it can read a disk.

                      Still.... WOOHOO WINNAR!!!

                      J.
                      In this case... Kubuntu simply destroys OS X. I can play many more games via Wine than by using OS X. Everything what I expect from my system is easier, faster and nicer with Kubuntu as well. Most of my friends thinks the same.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by johnc View Post
                        Look at how awful the color scheme of Ubuntu is when placed next to OS X.

                        Is it me? Do I not know what looks good and what doesn't?
                        Ubuntu's default wallpapers are one of the worst I've ever seen.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kraftman View Post
                          Everything what I expect from my system is easier, faster and nicer with Kubuntu as well. Most of my friends thinks the same.
                          Then use the tech that is easiest and fastest to you. I find that the Gnome 2 environment supports my work the best. I find windows handles my corporate groupware the best. I find that Apple handles my leisure the best. The only real annoyance I face when mixing the three is that Outlook likes to play character encoding tricks, replacing tab with space and hyphen with period when I cut and paste between my groupware box and my linux box.

                          We all like to brag about our tech being the best. We all have stories about how our choice made things better than someone else's. Truth be told, it's all crap. Apple, Linux, Windows.... All crap. It's funny how we fool ourselves into thinking that our turd somehow smells better than others. Then we conduct intricate benchmarks and comparisons of rasterized 3D scenes as if rasterization will mean something a decade from now. I'm sure that early industrialists did the same with steam engines via graphs of torque at different RPMs versus temperature and pressure, versus how many dinosaur turds you can fit into the furnace, as if the perfect steam engine was going to change the world any more than the mediocre ones did.

                          I've always felt that Linux would be the launchpad for whatever comes next. It could be the foundation for the next big technological advancement. People seem so concerned with making it outperform Windows/Mac that they've lost sight of the goal. Stop competing with Windows. Stop competing with Mac. Stop trying to build a better steam engine. In other words, "Fuck Nvidia".

                          F

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                          • #14
                            Nice

                            Nice to see Ubuntu mostly win the tests. Too bad Windows wasn't included.

                            I'd like to see a feature and functionality comparison too. There-way of Ubuntu, OS X and Windows.

                            http://widefox.pbworks.com/ (Old, oudated Windows/Linux kernel comparison)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
                              Apple's problem:
                              They overcharge for old products and patent every little thing they can possibly think of to sue companies (including those who make parts for them such as Samsung) with every chance they get. I don't find apple to be evil but they're blatantly assholes. Steve Jobs' personality matched his company, so with him gone and Tim Cook taking the lead, I'm already noticing some differences.

                              MS's problem:
                              Oh.... where to begin. They're probably one of the most anticompetitive modern companies ever formed. In the beginning, they stole code from other developers, published the code themselves, and sued the original developers into oblivion. Back in the day, they blackmailed companies like Apple (hell, even Intel got blackmailed at one point) by saying "All Macs must ship with IE pre-installed or else we will stop making MS Office releases for Mac". Then there's things like how MS would find something with immense potential to be popular, but is only supported on a different platform. MS would buy out the company supporting it (for example, Bungee). Then there's MS's classic anticompetitive tactic which is known as Embrace Expand Exterminate, where MS out of the blue decides they love a product that they used to despise, then they actively start developing toward it, and once they get just enough of their code pushed in there to make a difference, they sue the hell out of any supporting companies due to some tiny hole in the licensing of the entire product. This has completely crumbled several companies or otherwise badly crippled others (such as Sun Microsystems). This tactic scares me because they appear to be doing it to linux right now, I'm just not really sure how they think they can get away with it.

                              As for anything MS can't compete against, they just buy out the company, like Skype.
                              Do you have some sources for that?

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