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  • OpenBSD 5.1 Released

    Phoronix: OpenBSD 5.1 Released

    Six months after OpenBSD 5.0 was released, OpenBSD 5.1 is now available with a modest number of changes...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTA5NTA

  • #2
    Different priorities

    Originally posted by asdx
    While in Linux we have:

    • GNOME 3.4
    • KDE 4.8.3
    • Xfce 4.10
    • Mozilla Firefox 12
    • LibreOffice 3.5
    • Mono 2.10.8 (I'd rather not have this POS)
    • Chromium 18

    So in Linux we have the latest and greatest of everything, BSD as always is 10 years behind in everything they produce.
    Don't compare OpenBSD to your average bleeding edge linux distribution, they have totally different target groups.
    OpenBSD is probably the best at what they do - Security.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by McDuck View Post
      Don't compare OpenBSD to your average bleeding edge linux distribution, they have totally different target groups.
      OpenBSD is probably the best at what they do - Security.

      NetBSD don t like users.They like to port everything to a toaster
      Only FBI users like OpenBSD
      DragonFly is good only for clustering.


      FreeBSD is the only system for casual users. And still they don't have a good rendering infrastructure.

      There are only one good BSD distribution .It's PCBSD.I think they need to port all infrasctructure (package management) to Linux .

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      • #4
        Originally posted by lapis View Post
        NetBSD don t like users.They like to port everything to a toaster
        Only FBI users like OpenBSD
        DragonFly is good only for clustering.


        FreeBSD is the only system for casual users. And still they don't have a good rendering infrastructure.

        There are only one good BSD distribution .It's PCBSD.I think they need to port all infrasctructure (package management) to Linux .
        Well... don't know why you quoted me as your response had nothing to do with what I said.
        I kind of agree, but if OpenBSD is good enough for "FBI users" they are probably on target.

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        • #5
          Isn't UMS considered a security issue?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by asdx
            So they get paranoid about "security" at the cost of being 20 years behind in everything? Yay!
            Ok, so now they are 20 years behind and not 10 as you said in the previous post... 20 years.. hum lets see... No they are not 20 years behind when I look at the package list (not 10 either), not even close.
            But that is really besides the point, they are not paranoid about security - it is what they do. It is not an operating system for the average person who want a cool desktop to install.
            It has a specific puropse and it does that very well.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by McDuck View Post
              Don't compare OpenBSD to your average bleeding edge linux distribution, they have totally different target groups.
              OpenBSD is probably the best at what they do - Security.
              http://wideopenbsd.org/

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DaemonFC View Post
                Yupp, all very disturbing, that was a pretty short list spanning years 02-09 though.
                Just imagine all the the crap that exists in yours (and mine) linux system.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by McDuck View Post
                  Yupp, all very disturbing, that was a pretty short list spanning years 02-09 though.
                  Just imagine all the the crap that exists in yours (and mine) linux system.
                  At least Linux developers admit a security-related bug is a security problem and fix it, and assign it a CVE number. None of this OpenBDSM "Reliability patch" nonsense.

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                  • #10
                    I like that my BSDs let me do system upgrades without really worrying about all my shit not working anymore. Linux is total shit for this, BSD I might not have many choices for wifi, but when I update I can expect them to work. Linux every few kernel updates my wifi might fail to work correctly.

                    BSD sucks for being behind? I had better working wifi on windows 2000, then modern linux. I also had a better graphics stack in windows 98 then your living in the past shitty linux.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by soupbowl View Post
                      I like that my BSDs let me do system upgrades without really worrying about all my shit not working anymore. Linux is total shit for this, BSD I might not have many choices for wifi, but when I update I can expect them to work. Linux every few kernel updates my wifi might fail to work correctly.

                      BSD sucks for being behind? I had better working wifi on windows 2000, then modern linux. I also had a better graphics stack in windows 98 then your living in the past shitty linux.
                      That's why they have distros like Debian and CentOS - they're maintained to be stable.

                      As for your other comment, do you get better wifi in any BSD distro than linux or windows? Do you get better graphics support in BSD than linux or windows? How about audio? Not such a smart idea to bring up that point when, AFAIK, BSD is actually worse at those things than both linux and windows.

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                      • #12
                        All that matters is windows has 10x better wifi and video support. Linux will always be years and years behind.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by McDuck View Post
                          OpenBSD is probably the best at what they do - Security.
                          Sure they are. Until you look at what they don't count as security vulnerabilities.

                          This is like the line the Linux community uses about how Linux is immune to malware, even though Greg Kroah-Hartman urges people to scan their Linux installations for malware.

                          http://lwn.net/Articles/461237/

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by soupbowl View Post
                            I like that my BSDs let me do system upgrades without really worrying about all my shit not working anymore. Linux is total shit for this, BSD I might not have many choices for wifi, but when I update I can expect them to work. Linux every few kernel updates my wifi might fail to work correctly.

                            BSD sucks for being behind? I had better working wifi on windows 2000, then modern linux. I also had a better graphics stack in windows 98 then your living in the past shitty linux.
                            IMHO, "Security" and "Stability" comes from ➀ active testing(large user base), ➁ openness , ➂ careful scrutinization, ➃ active patching
                            FreeBSD prevails in ➂ and Windows in ➀. Linux scores high on average in all aspects.

                            We like Linux for what it is. EOS.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by asdx
                              Windows has so much better hardware/driver support than Linux that Windows will BSOD every single time I change my hardware, while Linux will still boot perfectly and recognize all my new hardware out of the box without my intervention.
                              I wonder why that happens. Win NT is a microkernel. It should not panic just because you change the hardware. Linux should.

                              I guess:
                              Blue Shit Of Death happens.

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