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  • #46
    Could we get the latest Arch linux? Since its a nice clean linux it would show how current linux development is doing compared to other OSs.

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    • #47
      32 bit is faster when the code has been hand optimized with asm. But usually the speed difference is not that important. More import is that you can playback fullscreen flash videos with opengl accelleration with nvidia or fglrx binary driver and on 64 bit you can not. On 64 bit that does not look good at all, only when you dl h264 flash movies and play em with mplayer using xv/vdpau (or opengl for fglrx).

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
        yes but you miss an point
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        Benchmarking is only for new hartware becourse you canot "not" buy your old hartware becourse of bad benchmark results!

        you only can handel your buy in hartware befor you buy it and read benchmarkes as a shopping guid!

        32bit linux is vor old hartware only!

        so to make a big benchmark on 32 bit is useless!
        No, you completely miss the point. 32-bit machines are out there in mass. Ranging from personal use, computer labs, servers, corporate workstations, etc and many of those places update machines when they absolutely need too. In such environments it is not uncommon to see those machines go even 7 years before replacement. Intel made 32-bit only mainstream cores well into 2007. The tests would be totally relevant.

        Of course your SSE2 argument doesn't hold crap either as most of PTS is compiled from scratch and the compilers pick up on the capabilities of the chip meaning if the CPU supports SSE2 it will be compiled with such support. It's called runtime detection. Also SSE2 will mean diddley shit squat to a lot of the benchmarks as many don't even use SSE2 and are not coded to utilize it either.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
          you also can use hackintosh ... .
          That would be illegal and put Micheal in the range of Apple's Ninja lawyers.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Apopas View Post
            Yup, also the new OSX will be pure 64 bit as they say.
            Well yes and no. OS X when ran on a 64-bit system will be pure 64. If ran on one of the early intel Macs that only had a 32-bit intel it will still run as 32-bit.

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            • #51
              You need to give -ftree-vectorize as compiler parameter to get vectorization from gcc.

              And for old gcc version that didn't have autodetection capability you need also give -msse2.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by suokko View Post
                You need to give -ftree-vectorize as compiler parameter to get vectorization from gcc.

                And for old gcc version that didn't have autodetection capability you need also give -msse2.
                Automatic Vectorization for SSE/SSE2 has been added since GCC 4. Mearly adding in -O3 should kick it in.
                Last edited by deanjo; 08-15-2009, 09:47 AM.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                  no thats a good argument becourse:
                  debian-i386=486!!!!
                  debian-amd64=64bit+sse2

                  you are a laier if you say you can use sse3 on the atom with an defauld desktop linux distri!

                  "save on manufacturing costs"

                  only becourse they must pay lizence per cpu to amd for the 64bit part!
                  so don't use debian - or do a source install, either way, saying the processor is completely worthless for everyone because one distro doesn't take full advantage of it is even worse then your last arguement.

                  and no - it actually costs them more to make 64bit chips. more transistors required and such. the liscence fee is only part of that expense, not that that is really relevant. bottom line - it was cheaper, more energy efficient, and those were the important properties needed for the intended platform - why is that too hard to grasp?

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                  • #54
                    Hi!

                    I would like to see:
                    1. Fedora 11, Mandriva (whatever is the lastes), OpenSuses (whatever is the lastest), Bubuntu (whatever is the latest) - because these are popular and everyone use them
                    2. ArchLinux - because it's rolling the bleediest of the bleeding edge (construct Your OS Yourself style), gentoo style with installation and configuration in couple of mins (actually I'm using it daily)
                    3. SLES, RHEL, CentOS, Solaris - because these are latest, supported from respective vendors, etc., just wanna see how this compares to others
                    4. OpenSolaris, Free[Open]BSD - just the results, no specific reason

                    regards
                    Kirurgs

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                    • #55
                      I would like to see SLED/SLES and RHEL in the benchmark. Since both are made for enterprise. Also they do have support and have a community built operating system (openSUSE and Fedora).

                      Having to many Linux based operating systems would be meaningless I think, and hardware wouldn't matter as long it is the same for all. Maybe Windows 7 should be in to.

                      also two test that would be intressting are SunSpider webbrowser test on the default browser of the operating system.
                      The second are GeekBench since it works on the most platforms.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                        you are a laier if you say you can use sse3 on the atom with an defauld desktop linux distri!
                        That's a choice of your distribution.
                        Moblin uses sse3 in 32 bit for everything.
                        Fedora 12 will use sse2 in their 32 bit install.
                        ..
                        ..

                        It's a choice. If you don't like the choice your distribution makes, either talk to them to change it, or change distributions.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by tesuki View Post
                          also two test that would be intressting are SunSpider webbrowser test on the default browser of the operating system.
                          Well you can already run PeaceMaker which is a bit more comprehensive benchmark of browsers already online. They have comparitive results there. It would be a duplicated effort.

                          The second are GeekBench since it works on the most platforms.
                          Geekbench won't run on 64-bit unless you pay for it and because it's a precompiled blob it is extremely hard extrapolate results on processor architecture. We have no idea what has been optimized and for what. Since it's not a real-world use benchmark results would be speculative and inconclusive as to how it would pertain to real world use.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by L33F3R View Post
                            Just because you use arch doesnt make it an ideal testing platform. I use linux mint but you dont see me asking for that to be tested, i can already assure you its bloated. If the man had the time i would say go for it but he and hopefully others here have lives to attend .
                            I use gentoo... Never tried Arch!
                            And because I respect other's lives I say to make the benchmark even more worthy

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                            • #59
                              Micheal,
                              How about having a test with all 32 and 64 bit linux suggested above first. And the winner (with the most/widely used)--that makes two distros--will 'challange' the others.

                              Same for *BSD.

                              so, you got 2 Linux distro vs. 1--winner--*BSD vs. opensolaris vs. MacOSX vs. the rest OSes..

                              Oh, and If you kind enough, please repeat the test again when big distro has out of their nest (opensuse, mandriva, ubuntu, fedora).

                              TQ
                              Last edited by t.s.; 08-15-2009, 12:09 PM.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by DDevine View Post
                                I would really like to see Haiku OS thrown into this mix, though I am not sure it will run PTS.
                                I have wanted to bring PTS to Haiku, but do they even have PHP available for Haiku yet?
                                Michael Larabel
                                http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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