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  • I'll jump in for the hell of it. I'll have to agree with the "It takes days to set up Windows." camp. We're not just talking about installing it, and then appling all the updates. We're talking about making Windows more usable than as something that launces wordpad or solitaire and collects viruses. You need to install an anti-virus, more than likely drivers for this or that device (this has gotten a lot better since Windows 7 though), and then installing all the applications you plan on using day in and out. Now if you already have the full set burned to a disk somewhere or on a drive, then good for you, it won't take nearly as long. But if you don't, you have to go hunting down all of the tools that you need, and that's what makes it take days.

    With Linux, it's usually as simple as 'apt-get install <package name>' or 'yum install <package name>' or even use your distribution's graphical package manager and mark whatever packages you want, wait howerver long, boom, they're installed. Much easier to make it useful than Windows. Not to mention that the driver issue is really not that big of deal for most people, unless you're a gamer or something, then most things just work out of the box.

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    • In modern Windows, you also don't need to install any drivers, unless you're a gamer or something. (But if you are a gamer, install your damned graphics drivers, srsly.)

      You also don't need to do anything about viruses. Windows 8 comes with Windows Defender installed, which is a pretty decent AV package (it doesn't have as broad coverage as other AV packages (like 91% vs 99%) but it also doesn't have the rampant problems with false positives that others have). Besides which, unless you're in the habit of opening unknown email attachments, you're probably okay with just using an AV rescue disc in an emergency.

      You've got a good point with the package manager, though. (Well, you would, if you didn't mention apt-get and yum; yeah, those are fast, but they're quite clearly only fast if you're experienced with the platform, and you happen to know the exact name of the packages you're interested in. Nothing against these tools -- I run servers, so apt-get is my preference -- it's just not fair to compare a system you have a lot of experience in with a system that you don't.)

      But point taken, it does take me a while to go to each individual website to install Chrome, OpenHardwareMonitor, TortoiseSVN, puTTY, Thunderbird, LibreOffice, GVim, 7-zip, WinSCP, Gimp, Inkscape, Steam, Visual Studio, etc... Libraries are even worse, since Windows has no standard location for them.

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      • Just put Windows 8 on my HP Touchsmart, still had to install the Ntrig drivers, and a few others.

        About apt-get/yum. That's why I mentioned the graphical package managers, type in a search term and you will generally find software for any use, plus many alternatives.

        Half the time when you're downloading software for Windows you have to make sure you uncheck all the extra toolbar bullcrap that is installed along with 'free' software. It's gotten really bad lately.

        Anyhow, as others have pointed out, I guess it's all up to the individual, if you're more comfortable under Windows, more power to you. I still find it odd that a coworker of mine kept saying that he couldn't use Linux as his desktop, even though he was a server administrator. I asked him how he could tolerate having 30 putty windows open, 'cause that's usually about how many terminals I'd have open!

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        • Certain things take ages to install: VS, Office, printer drivers (HP dammit), 3ds products. Pick two or more, and you easily are wasting a day already on those.

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          • I use mRemoteNG on my Windows computer at work.
            It lets you use all the most common protocols. ssh and rdp are the only ones I really need, it doesn't support the tunnel features, X forwarding or local drives mapping like putty or mstsc but works nice with certificates and is compatible to putty configured sessions.

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            • Originally posted by nll_a View Post
              Hey, www.gamingonlinux.com is great.
              As the owner of GOL i approve that link , thanks for the plug

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              • Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
                You must be quite efficient, then. It takes that much merely to install updates and find the drivers, not even talking about configuration.
                At my work we do a lot of Windows installations and it always drives me crazy that you have to reboot several times to install all updates and hit search manually for it to find all avalible updates, even when you did a check just one reboot ago. When working on Windows it is also increadbyly fustratingn that it will randomly require a reboot for an update and you ofthen have no way of knowing if it will steal the system to compleate the update before you get the desktop back. I have even had Windows exit out of games in order to automatically reboot for an update WTF!

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                • Originally posted by AJenbo View Post
                  At my work we do a lot of Windows installations and it always drives me crazy that you have to reboot several times to install all updates and hit search manually for it to find all avalible updates, even when you did a check just one reboot ago. When working on Windows it is also increadbyly fustratingn that it will randomly require a reboot for an update and you ofthen have no way of knowing if it will steal the system to compleate the update before you get the desktop back. I have even had Windows exit out of games in order to automatically reboot for an update WTF!
                  you can disable auto reboot for update if really needed http://lifehacker.com/stop-windows-f...date-509712123
                  It means that you are responsible for rebooting in a timely order when a security update is installed, but windows won't do it behind your back.

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                  • Originally posted by sunweb View Post
                    This is insane. Why are they even here? I can understand even Apple but Mices? There're no news for them at all or am i missing something?
                    I have to use Windows at work most of the time.
                    Its amazing how M$ has been able to force their OS on innocent and helpless people

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                    • Originally posted by Apopas View Post
                      Why you guys use Chrome instead of Chromium?
                      Hangouts. (and other crx extensions)

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                      • Originally posted by sunweb View Post
                        This is insane. Why are they even here? I can understand even Apple but Mices? There're no news for them at all or am i missing something?
                        I run Linux at work for software development and Windows at home, mostly for the games. But when I browse Phoronix from home, it will show up as a Windows browser.

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                        • Originally posted by liamdawe View Post
                          As the owner of GOL i approve that link , thanks for the plug
                          And thank you for your great website! I check it everyday! =)

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