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    Phoronix: Vote On The Linux Distro To Be Benchmarked

    Yesterday I opened the discussion about what Linux distribution should be benchmarked the most at Phoronix given that many Linux enthusiasts and readers are not fond of the direction of Ubuntu. To not much surprise given the very opinionated Phoronix readers, there's been about 200 comments and counting...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQyMTU

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    Scientific Linux vs Ubuntu.

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    • #3
      I expect a second round, with a reduced number of options.

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      • #4
        I dont get it, so many kids are crying why ubuntu is the most tested distro, but they are so noobs and dont understand, that it doesnt really matter, which distro is tested, they are all the same - linux, what matters is which version of which program, library or package is less buggy and faster. Anyway, ubuntu still wins the poll

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        • #5
          it is essential to put a 5 post limit on voting to avoid fanboys registered just for the voting. or make it public so anyone (registered or not) can vote.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by startzz View Post
            I dont get it, so many kids are crying why ubuntu is the most tested distro, but they are so noobs and dont understand, that it doesnt really matter, which distro is tested, they are all the same - linux, what matters is which version of which program, library or package is less buggy and faster. Anyway, ubuntu still wins the poll
            Distributions are certainly not all the same and it's valid to expect performance differences between them.

            Yes it does matter (as far as the relevancy of the benchmarks themselves, anyway). It also matters in the real world. Kernel version, kernel configuration options, how the distribution is compiled (and with what version of gcc), what rubbish is running in the background and yes, versions of software and libraries being used and what patching they have done for whatever purpose.

            Ubuntu is becoming irrelevant to non Ubuntu users ("crying noobs that don't understand"? That's almost funny), because they are diverging from the software that we are going to be using.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by startzz View Post
              it doesnt really matter, which distro is tested, they are all the same - linux, what matters is which version of which program, library or package is less buggy and faster. Anyway, ubuntu still wins the poll
              Yes, that's the whole point. With Ubuntu you are soon going to be testing Mir/XMir. Every other distro is going to use Wayland. So you're testing completely different software.

              In that regard, the voting is basically Ubuntu 30%, everything else 70%. It doesn't really matter what the other option is to me, as long as there is one with Wayland. Continuing to test Ubuntu is fine too.

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              • #8
                So ? thats great, we dont need 100 and one useless copy of the same linux, its good that ubuntu is trying to create something different, something useful. At least they are trying to do something else, not just to create another useless linux distro. And even if ubuntu will fail, its not a big deal, you will still have hundreds of others distros, that are all the same, having one less will not hurt, i think

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by startzz View Post
                  So ? thats great, we dont need 100 and one useless copy of the same linux, its good that ubuntu is trying to create something different, something useful. At least they are trying to do something else, not just to create another useless linux distro. And even if ubuntu will fail, its not a big deal, you will still have hundreds of others distros, that are all the same, having one less will not hurt, i think
                  Huh? What's your point?

                  Nothing wrong with Ubuntu doing it's own thing, but that means Phoronix needs to pick another distro if it still wants to test the "standard" linux, and apparently about 70% of the readership here does want that.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
                    Huh? What's your point?

                    Nothing wrong with Ubuntu doing it's own thing, but that means Phoronix needs to pick another distro if it still wants to test the "standard" linux, and apparently about 70% of the readership here does want that.
                    I dont see any other distro with bigger than 30% voting.

                    With the same way i can say that:
                    the 75% want other distro than Fedora
                    the 80% want other than Arch/Manjaro
                    the 85% want other than openSUSE

                    and so on...

                    There is no "standard" Linux.

                    For me Android, Ubuntu, Arch, Puppy Linux etc are "standard" Linux. Like it or not thats the Linus Torvald's opinion too.
                    Last edited by verde; 07-28-2013, 06:16 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by verde View Post
                      I dont see any other distro with bigger than 30% voting.

                      With the same way i can say that:
                      the 75% want other distro than Fedora
                      the 80% want other than Arch/Manjaro
                      the 85% want other than openSUSE

                      and so on...

                      There is no "standard" Linux.

                      For me Android, Ubuntu, Arch, Puppy Linux etc are "standard" Linux. Like it or not thats the Linus Torvald's opinion too.
                      Yes, and if speak in general, there is no such os as "linux", what it is, is just one big, bloated, oversized kernel + other packages, so you just cannot test linux as you can test a real os like windows or mac os, because windows or mac os is a real os, that people install it to use it, whereas linux, as i already said, is just a bunch of packages with the idea of "general linux". Linux just doesnt have that "one os to rule them all" thing, nor it was made for that.
                      Plus, if you would really want to know some test results of some distro, you would just install it and test it yourself on your hardware, because even if there would be some test results on phoronix you want, but it wouldnt be done on your hardware, so it would be useless for you.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by startzz View Post
                        So ? thats great, we dont need 100 and one useless copy of the same linux, its good that ubuntu is trying to create something different, something useful. At least they are trying to do something else, not just to create another useless linux distro. And even if ubuntu will fail, its not a big deal, you will still have hundreds of others distros, that are all the same, having one less will not hurt, i think
                        so you're calling all Linux's useless well lets see how well this Xmir Thing Works out in Ubuntu 13.10 SS

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                        • #13
                          Debian testing (current).

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by verde View Post
                            I dont see any other distro with bigger than 30% voting.

                            With the same way i can say that:
                            the 75% want other distro than Fedora
                            the 80% want other than Arch/Manjaro
                            the 85% want other than openSUSE

                            and so on...

                            There is no "standard" Linux.

                            For me Android, Ubuntu, Arch, Puppy Linux etc are "standard" Linux. Like it or not thats the Linus Torvald's opinion too.
                            As startzz pointed out, it's not the distro name that is important. It's what software and what versions of that software it uses that are.

                            Which means the results are Mir: 30%, Wayland 70%.

                            The distro name is meaningless.

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                            • #15
                              Fedora 19? Seriously??? Ubuntu rocks and there's a reason for that, actually why Canonical got it, and the rest simply didn't.

                              I checked out Fedora 19 installation when installing with Windows 7. No indication that the installer understood I had Windows 7, it just drove me through the partitioning installation like it assumed I was some wizard in a basement or something.

                              Ubuntu 13.04. Runs like rails. Completely 100% user friendly. It detected my Windows 7, asked me do I want to install my Ubuntu alongside it, sure I said I want to and I didn't need to bother with partitioning or risking losing my existing data.

                              That's professional! And that's the explanation why Ubuntu and not other distros. The ubiquity installer is open source, but why don't other distros use it? Nah they know better. They don't want people as their users who may confuse their computer with their toaster, people who prefer stuff to just work, so they can open word(they think it's word when in fact its libreoffice they are running).

                              But phoronix users they can tell the difference between a toaster and a computer. Good for you. Also many of them are wizards, even though they may not live in basements(stereotypes).

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