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    Phoronix: Windows 8 vs. Linux Graphics, Source Benchmarks Coming

    Before the end of the month will be many new and exciting Linux benchmarks on Phoronix, including the Radeon Dynamic Power Management results in full, many updated Windows 8 vs. Ubuntu Linux tests, and Valve Source Engine Linux GPU benchmarks, among others...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQxODM

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    Could you stop posting about what are you going to do and just post when it's available? All this is bullshit even for a tabloid-like site.

    Thanks.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by timofonic View Post
      Could you stop posting about what are you going to do and just post when it's available? All this is bullshit even for a tabloid-like site.

      Thanks.
      It's generally a lot more effective when people provide test requests / feedback / suggestions prior to writing a given article than giving feedback afterwards when nothing can be changed until the next time such tests are done...
      Michael Larabel
      http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Michael View Post
        It's generally a lot more effective when people provide test requests / feedback / suggestions prior to writing a given article than giving feedback afterwards when nothing can be changed until the next time such tests are done...
        Well, it makes sense. Sorry for over reacting about it, then...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by timofonic View Post
          Could you stop posting about what are you going to do and just post when it's available? All this is bullshit even for a tabloid-like site.

          Thanks.
          It's his site, he can do whatever he wants with it.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by synaptix View Post
            It's his site, he can do whatever he wants with it.
            agreed, and i think if possible some steam AMD win8 vs r600g linux would put a nice perspective on the road of open drivers

            edit including 3.11 and vadim r600sb ofc

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            • #7
              You should actually use Linux in your tests

              Originally posted by Michael View Post
              It's generally a lot more effective when people provide test requests / feedback / suggestions prior to writing a given article than giving feedback afterwards when nothing can be changed until the next time such tests are done...
              Normally you do benchmarks with Ubuntu, but can you please instead use a linux distro? Debian, Fedora, Mint, Gentoo, there are plenty of distros out there who wish to remain linux distros instead of becoming their own unique enclave.

              We are fast approaching a time when Ubuntu is about as "linux" as android is.

              Or else title your upcoming piece: "Windows 8 vs. Ubuntu Graphics, Source Benchmarks"

              Thanks.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by halfmanhalfamazing View Post
                Normally you do benchmarks with Ubuntu, but can you please instead use a linux distro? Debian, Fedora, Mint, Gentoo, there are plenty of distros out there who wish to remain linux distros instead of becoming their own unique enclave.

                We are fast approaching a time when Ubuntu is about as "linux" as android is.

                Or else title your upcoming piece: "Windows 8 vs. Ubuntu Graphics, Source Benchmarks"

                Thanks.
                I normally don't agree with people like him Michael...but right now I kind of am inclined to. I know you use Ubuntu because its the most common distro, but with all the crap with Xmir and stuff... Maybe you should be switching to Linux Mint (if you still want to remain 'ubuntu-ish') or even Fedora (if you want to start seeing whats the latest PACKAGED code in a packaged distro. I add that last part to exclude Arch because theres any number of things that could skew those numbers. <3 Arch though )

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ericg View Post
                  I normally don't agree with people like him Michael...but right now I kind of am inclined to. I know you use Ubuntu because its the most common distro, but with all the crap with Xmir and stuff... Maybe you should be switching to Linux Mint (if you still want to remain 'ubuntu-ish') or even Fedora (if you want to start seeing whats the latest PACKAGED code in a packaged distro. I add that last part to exclude Arch because theres any number of things that could skew those numbers. <3 Arch though )
                  I love Fedora a lot and always have, but as can be seen from the articles, I generally only use it for benchmarks around the time it's actually released when the packages are still fresh namely because:

                  - Fedora Rawhide packages ship with a lot of debug cruft that can affect the performance so using those experimental packages unfortunately doesn't work out well.

                  - Ubuntu is convenient for kernel tests with their Ubuntu Mainline Kernel PPA where they also package the daily Git kernels. As far as I know there isn't any similar archive for Fedora. I can easily build my own Git kernel, but when (re)installing systems often, this is very convenient, plus if people have a question about my kernel configuration or want to also test the latest kernel, I can simply tell them to go to the PPA.

                  I think those are my two main gripes these days but yeah aside from that have been using Xubuntu a lot lately.
                  Michael Larabel
                  http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Michael View Post
                    It's generally a lot more effective when people provide test requests / feedback / suggestions prior to writing a given article than giving feedback afterwards when nothing can be changed until the next time such tests are done...
                    If you want feedback...

                    Please, when comparing the radeon OSS driver to Win8 or fglrx proprietary drivers, add an option of enabling the shader optimizations. (sb) Showing results with it both OFF and ON would be nice.

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                    • #11
                      If not Ubuntu, I definitely say Linux Mint.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Michael View Post
                        I love Fedora a lot and always have, but as can be seen from the articles, I generally only use it for benchmarks around the time it's actually released when the packages are still fresh namely because:

                        - Fedora Rawhide packages ship with a lot of debug cruft that can affect the performance so using those experimental packages unfortunately doesn't work out well.

                        - Ubuntu is convenient for kernel tests with their Ubuntu Mainline Kernel PPA where they also package the daily Git kernels. As far as I know there isn't any similar archive for Fedora. I can easily build my own Git kernel, but when (re)installing systems often, this is very convenient, plus if people have a question about my kernel configuration or want to also test the latest kernel, I can simply tell them to go to the PPA.

                        I think those are my two main gripes these days but yeah aside from that have been using Xubuntu a lot lately.
                        Valid points about Rawhide and the Mainline PPA being available. In that case yeah I would say move to X/Kubuntu, or Linux Mint (Debian edition maybe? Is that compatibile with the Mainline kernel packages?). Just because dealing with XMir alone is going to start messing up your benchmarks and its only going to get worse as things move on

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ericg View Post
                          Valid points about Rawhide and the Mainline PPA being available. In that case yeah I would say move to X/Kubuntu, or Linux Mint (Debian edition maybe? Is that compatibile with the Mainline kernel packages?). Just because dealing with XMir alone is going to start messing up your benchmarks and its only going to get worse as things move on
                          hmm a lot of users are dropping Ubuntu but yeah Mint, Deban SID, Fedora, sound's nice
                          i Like to See a Linux Mint MATE (or just Linux Mint VS Linux Mint Debian) Vs Ubuntu Mir Vs Windows
                          we know Xmir even makes puppies cry

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ericg View Post
                            Valid points about Rawhide and the Mainline PPA being available. In that case yeah I would say move to X/Kubuntu, or Linux Mint (Debian edition maybe? Is that compatibile with the Mainline kernel packages?). Just because dealing with XMir alone is going to start messing up your benchmarks and its only going to get worse as things move on
                            Both Unity/Mir and Gnome/Wayland will run within Ubuntu, so it will continue to be possible to benchmark both setups against each other. The Xorg packages aren't going to be removed. Having said that, the more data points the better. If it is possible to benchmark other distributions then go for it. Debian sid might the easiest, obviously being Ubuntu upstream, and it should already have all the latest packages including kernel.

                            There may not be any huge differences between desktops or distributions: the previous distro comparison showed a benchmark variance of only a few FPS between distributions, though the previous desktop comparison did show Gnome and KDE trailing by 15%-35% on a couple of benchmarks.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by chrisb View Post
                              Both Unity/Mir and Gnome/Wayland will run within Ubuntu, so it will continue to be possible to benchmark both setups against each other. The Xorg packages aren't going to be removed. Having said that, the more data points the better. If it is possible to benchmark other distributions then go for it. Debian sid might the easiest, obviously being Ubuntu upstream, and it should already have all the latest packages including kernel.

                              There may not be any huge differences between desktops or distributions: the previous distro comparison showed a benchmark variance of only a few FPS between distributions, though the previous desktop comparison did show Gnome and KDE trailing by 15%-35% on a couple of benchmarks.
                              most of Gnome's Lag is going to be fixxed in Wayland from what i can see now as for KDE hmm

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