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  • #16
    Originally posted by David View Post
    I have a good question for everyone. Does anyone actually like the stuff in the left nav? (Recent Articles, Recent Linux News, Recent Solaris News etc etc). Which ones could we do without?
    I like the concept, but there's just so much content that it clutters the look of the site to my eye, especially since they show on every page. That left hand position is valuable real-estate for simpler high level nav items.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by David View Post
      I have a good question for everyone. Does anyone actually like the stuff in the left nav? (Recent Articles, Recent Linux News, Recent Solaris News etc etc). Which ones could we do without?
      In general I like having such a bar. Here is a short list of topics I really would like to see in there:
      Recent Articles
      Recent Linux News
      Featured Articles
      Phoronix Forums
      Topics from the Blog

      Stuff I don't think is needed there:
      Reviews From Around The Web

      The part about Solaris: It is okay though not a must have for me. The screenshots: No idea if they do need an entry in there though it can also be nice to have.

      So my vote: Yes, I like to have such a bar, though I would welcome to have it by far more "slim". About 60% of the current size would IMO be better, even if some "topics" would not be completely shown but aborted by '...'.

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      • #18
        Since it looks like the forums does not want to accept my edit, here my changes in a new reply:
        There was just an update to decrease the width of the left bar, it is a lot better now. Reducing it a little bit further might be good, though it can stay this way, too. I would welcome having topics up to the size of the one entitled "An Outcry For Improved ATI Linux Drivers" completely shown and afterwards stuff cut off. That is just a little less than what currently is used, maybe 20 to 30px.
        Still the page itself is too wide due to the image http://www.phoronix.com/phxcms-css/header.jpg having a width of 1080px. It might be better to reduce the horizontal size of the banner a little to maybe 1000px. I did create a screenshot of the current layout at my sys (link), as you see, the banner gets cut of right after the "contact" link. That is where I would prefer having the banner itself cut, too. If it had a size of 1000px horizontally users with 1024x768 would have no probs with the page as long as they are using fullscreen.
        Regarding the number of links in each category: I would vote for a little more than just 4. Maybe 6?

        Edit: This command should do the resize without any probs if you got imagemagick available: 'convert -resize 1000x90 header.jpg header_new.jpg' The vertical value (currently 90px) will be adjusted as needed to keep the aspect ratio. Eg it will be scaled to 83px when the horizontal value is 1000px.
        Last edited by ivanovic; 04-20-2007, 08:26 AM.

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        • #19
          Ch-Ch-Changes. To sum them up:

          - The "bar" is much slimmer now and with that the Google Ad there has decreased in size. The bar has also moved down a bit so running along the top now are four (instead of three) latest articles with quotes.

          - Reviews From Around The Web is only displayed in the bar when viewing the home page.

          - Recent Solaris News will NOT be displayed when viewing an article or review. On other pages it will be in the bar but not when viewing an actual article.

          - Editor's Blog has been removed from the bar to save room.

          - The middle horizontal navigation underneath the header has been reordered.

          I think that about sums up the major changes -- there were a few other small tweaks. We will still be making more changes so if there is anything else you would like to see that hasn't been mentioned, be sure to share it with us. Thanks.
          Michael Larabel
          http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Michael
            - The middle horizontal navigation underneath the header has been reordered.
            Hmmm, I would welcome to see the link to the redblog in the topbar removed in favor for a link to the Editor's Blog. And IMO it is sad to loose the Editor's Blog in the linklist on the left side.
            Overall: Looks okay so far (beside the top banner width ).

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            • #21
              Originally posted by ivanovic View Post
              Hmmm, I would welcome to see the link to the redblog in the topbar removed in favor for a link to the Editor's Blog. And IMO it is sad to loose the Editor's Blog in the linklist on the left side.
              Overall: Looks okay so far (beside the top banner width ).
              Editor's Blog will return shortly.

              Discussing the width of the site right now with stakeholders.

              David is also working on some AJAX to clear up the left hand side possibly.
              Michael Larabel
              http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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              • #22
                The site is now a fixed width of 1060px (as opposed to 1080px). It will help a bit for 1024 users. Right now we can't really go much smaller than that due to the horizontal running areas (and most users being greater than 1024).
                Michael Larabel
                http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Michael View Post
                  The site is now a fixed width of 1060px (as opposed to 1080px). It will help a bit for 1024 users. Right now we can't really go much smaller than that due to the horizontal running areas (and most users being greater than 1024).
                  Some of us aren't as well endowed as you...

                  It isn't a big reduction from 1060 to 1024, less than 3%.

                  Pretty please?

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                  • #24
                    http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3...onixcapwv2.png
                    the text in the items on the left side need to be "..." after a certain ammount maybe?

                    That is a shot of a 1600x1200 screen running the new site in epiphany 2.16.3. The size of the window is the same as I always keep it, so I browse all sites in that window, and I havent had a problem till I came upon this new site, Althought granted im sure thats just because its over _1000_ pixels wide.

                    Also, lets tux up that logo. In fact, make everything more badass like the late linux-militia.net. If the site was smaller, say 666 pixels wide, you could put some cool random blood spotches and spend cartridges on either side of the centered page.

                    The google ads on the left REALLY REALLY REALLY need to go below the navigation on the left. having that right in between the boxes below and above it distrupts stuff.

                    But yeah I mean, I dont know if that stuff is easy, and considering that the problem of getting rid of the solaris crap is pretty easy, we should all concentrate on that first.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by JonC View Post
                      Some of us aren't as well endowed as you...

                      It isn't a big reduction from 1060 to 1024, less than 3%.

                      Pretty please?
                      I'll see about making it 1020px.
                      Michael Larabel
                      http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by byteframe View Post
                        http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3...onixcapwv2.png
                        the text in the items on the left side need to be "..." after a certain ammount maybe?

                        That is a shot of a 1600x1200 screen running the new site in epiphany 2.16.3. The size of the window is the same as I always keep it, so I browse all sites in that window, and I havent had a problem till I came upon this new site, Althought granted im sure thats just because its over _1000_ pixels wide.

                        Also, lets tux up that logo. In fact, make everything more badass like the late linux-militia.net. If the site was smaller, say 666 pixels wide, you could put some cool random blood spotches and spend cartridges on either side of the centered page.

                        The google ads on the left REALLY REALLY REALLY need to go below the navigation on the left. having that right in between the boxes below and above it distrupts stuff.

                        But yeah I mean, I dont know if that stuff is easy, and considering that the problem of getting rid of the solaris crap is pretty easy, we should all concentrate on that first.
                        For the text in the box, it's automatically calculated how much text to display. However, I see that you must be using a different font in Epiphany. I'll see about improving the algorithm for how the box is displayed.

                        You sure seem to be Anti-Solaris... Why is that?
                        Michael Larabel
                        http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Michael View Post
                          While the ad locations have changed, we actually haven't increased the number of ads on Phoronix. In fact, on some pages it's less.
                          The placement is better too. I use adblock in FF, so before there would just be random gaps at the beginning of the article, now it is in the top corner and just makes it look like you want the article title to standout a bit.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Michael View Post
                            I'll see about making it 1020px.
                            Thank you for changing it. Now browsing the site is really okay again.

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                            • #29
                              No problem. When enough people request something, it's done. It's a democratic society here at Phoronix.

                              The "quote boxes" at the top of Phoronix should also be fixed to dynamic heights.
                              Michael Larabel
                              http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                              • #30
                                Michael, I don't know why *he* is anti-solaris, but Sun has been anti-Linux for so long I don't see a need to support them. Solaris is inferior to the other commercial unix offerings (HPUX and AIX) in terms of features, security, and performance (see the Sun license with regard to benchmark publishing). I mean, the SPARC architecture is a joke; most current IBM and HP marketing material ignores SPARC since it's a non-issue when comparing vs Power or IA64.

                                You'd be better off (in my humble opinion) to focus on Plan9 and Linux if you must be a dual OS shop. Maybe even Hurd. But not OpenSolaris.

                                A decent portion of Linux folks haven't forgot the Sun FUD machine; they are marginally better than SCO.

                                But, if you must do OpenSolaris, go with Belenix. Its at least halfway decent IMO.


                                And, I like the new site...it works well on IceWeasel @ 1920x1200; loads fast, nice graphics, etc....
                                Last edited by Thund; 04-20-2007, 08:31 PM.

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