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  • #31
    Same here. Russia.

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    • #32
      How is it now? I've changed ad providers for that location and hope its changed until IDG people decide to get around back to work...
      Michael Larabel
      http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Michael View Post
        How is it now? I've changed ad providers for that location and hope its changed until IDG people decide to get around back to work...
        This seems to have done the trick.

        However I'll stick to AdBlock and donate money every now and then.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Michael View Post
          No worries, I've already been developing safeguards for if/when I get tired of AdBlock usage, I flip the switch and the test result graphs begin being served through Adobe Flash -- and for those without Flash -- through JavaScript and SVG... And being hosted off my primary ad providers network.
          If you flip that switch I'll stop visiting the site, it's pretty much that simple. I operate my ad-block with a whitelist. There are about 10 sites i regularly visit that are exempted (digg, arstechnica, anandtech, other sites I trust).

          Phoronix would be on it but the ads are too damn annoying. Get rid of the flashing and especially the ones that cover article content and I'd whitelist, but as it is those "click to close" ads bother me way too much to support.

          Google is the largest and richest ad provider on the web, and they became such with simple, unintrusive and targeted ads. You should learn something from that.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Michael View Post
            How is it now? I've changed ad providers for that location and hope its changed until IDG people decide to get around back to work...
            Works for me.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by MartjeB View Post
              However, notice:
              1. It has a short time-out (waaay shorter than the forums)
              2. You have to login using the forums
              3. You can't lock it to your IP (so you *have* to login)
              Agree completely. I really should get around to making phoronix.com/forums one of my home pages instead of just phoronix.com, just so that I'm logged in automatically. I'd love a site-wide login that keeps me logged in, instead of just in the forums. I'd feel much better about the Premium subscription if that was available (which I need to get around to renewing soon).

              Also, Opera 10.10 (at least on Solaris) seems to have an issue where the IntelliText ads aren't actually closeable when you click on their little "x" in the corner.

              Lastly, the big "only shows once per day" ad popped up twice on me this morning when I first visited. I first loaded the main phoronix page, and then opened this news article in another tab. Both tabs got the big ad displayed. I do not remember if I had closed the big pop-up ad before opening the second tab.

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              • #37
                For those non-Premium forum members. made more improvements this morning to ensure IntelliTxt/Kontera ads don't show up when browsing the main Phoronix site as long as you are logged into the forum account.
                Michael Larabel
                http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                • #38
                  @michael:
                  I realise that it is ad revenue that allows me to read all the fantastic, and sometimes less fantastic, articles and news items. I sometimes just click on them to support it a little.

                  But please get rid of those flashing, in your face ads!

                  Btw do I have to accept the coockies? I delete them when the session closes anyway...

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Michael View Post
                    No worries, I've already been developing safeguards for if/when I get tired of AdBlock usage, I flip the switch and the test result graphs begin being served through Adobe Flash -- and for those without Flash -- through JavaScript and SVG... And being hosted off my primary ad providers network.
                    Please, do -just- that. I'd love to see the reaction of the users here.

                    But fact is, you know and it's a given that the majority of people here are technical users who use adblock and/or other measures of blocking ads. I don't think I'd be far off to bet that it's not you're waiting until you get tired of AdBlock usage, you're actually afraid many people would stop visiting the website if you forced it on them in such a base method as you just described. You don't want to provoke such a reaction.

                    Any way you see it, a user has the right to filter any content he downloads -into- his computer. You could contraargue that a server admin has the right to filter any users he wishes, but you would agree with me it's impossible to do that.

                    It's a given that your financial model isn't working (you've cared to notice it yourself several times). Why not change to the wikipedia model, which is obviously working? I'd be the first to donate if you drop this premium content / ads crap.

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                    • #40
                      I had an ad appear over the majority of the article. It appeared in a big square box with a "click to close" link on the bottom. The ad was for a service from some company called SAP.
                      I live in Minnesota (USA) in case that matters.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Craig73 View Post
                        Lol... this is somewhere between funny - and arrogant (not only reduce Phoronix ad revenue, but rub it in his face as well)
                        In his defence:
                        * if I do not use a blocker, I get usually three ads on the phoronix site, top left and right.
                        * All three use flash, and CPU use goes way up.
                        * They take ages to load and firefox blocks (goes gray when using Compiz) for sometimes over a minute.
                        * The ads are not in the slightest on target. Why is there no add for Amazon, or Thinkgeek or something geek or technology related. I facebook there is an option to click ads away and give a reason, i.e. not interested, irrelevant, obscene etc. They use this to give personalized somewhat relevant ads. If Phoronix is dependant on ads revenue, then find an ad company that is better in targeting the phoronix public. I block ads because they are simply too intrusive and make the site unusable for me sometimes, or worse.
                        * Some of the ads for some diet thing displayed bare-chested young men, leading people to think I was viewing some kind of gay site. Nothing wrong with people who are homosexual, but I don't want people to think I'm watching gay sites. These ads just make phoronix not save to watch at work anymore sometimes.
                        * The flash ads are so simple, that I don't see the point of using flash for it at all. They could simply have been pictures.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by susikala View Post
                          Please, do -just- that. I'd love to see the reaction of the users here.

                          But fact is, you know and it's a given that the majority of people here are technical users who use adblock and/or other measures of blocking ads. I don't think I'd be far off to bet that it's not you're waiting until you get tired of AdBlock usage, you're actually afraid many people would stop visiting the website if you forced it on them in such a base method as you just described. You don't want to provoke such a reaction.

                          Any way you see it, a user has the right to filter any content he downloads -into- his computer. You could contraargue that a server admin has the right to filter any users he wishes, but you would agree with me it's impossible to do that.

                          It's a given that your financial model isn't working (you've cared to notice it yourself several times). Why not change to the wikipedia model, which is obviously working? I'd be the first to donate if you drop this premium content / ads crap.
                          This.

                          As the "Humble Indie Bundle" (google it) has proven, Linux users tend to donate nicely to stuff they support. The ads are crap, especially those which convert article text into mouseover ads.

                          At the very least, try the donation-based approach and see if that works for you. FWIW, I'll be one of the first to donate.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by dcc24 View Post
                            This.

                            As the "Humble Indie Bundle" (google it) has proven, Linux users tend to donate nicely to stuff they support. The ads are crap, especially those which convert article text into mouseover ads.

                            At the very least, try the donation-based approach and see if that works for you. FWIW, I'll be one of the first to donate.
                            There is donation support, see second to last paragraph - http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...item&px=ODA3NA
                            Michael Larabel
                            http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                            • #44
                              Why don't you just put up a donate-button in the right-top and remove all the advertisements? Try it for a month or so; if it doesn't work out, put the ads back on.

                              I hate looking at naked men trying to sell me steroids, sigh.

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                              • #45
                                I'm sure Michael gets it. No one likes ads but lets be realistic here.

                                Ars Technica, one of the most popular tech sites ever, tried a purely "premium subscriber"-based approach. Even with a large amount of content and huge reader ship they barely managed to get over 1000 subscribers. They were forced to revert, people simply don't value such content enough to warrant this type of model. See the massively declining newspaper business for another example.

                                It would be incredibly arrogant to suggest he should change his entire business model on a whim. I'm sure he has already looked at all the options. We are not going to give him an epiphany suggesting something else. Looking at previous attempts of these "other business models" for this type of site it would be (imo) very likely to fail.

                                It seems far more reasonable (and productive) approach might be to voice concern over the types of ads that make us block them and what would make people reconsider adding Phoronix to your exempt list.


                                So here are my suggestions:
                                1) As stated before intelliTXT is essentially my most hated type of ad. It makes copying a passage of text and linking someone a pain and annoyance. Meaning less views for you. Removing them for logged-in forum members is great imo and I appreciate it. However, as someone previously suggested, would it be possible to have a site account linked to your forum account? This way we would not have to log into the forums before viewing an article to remove it? Other ads would still be displayed, obviously.

                                2) The other thing that (mainly) bothers me is the large ad in the article text which often pushes the content I want out of the way.I just think having an ad here is bad practice, it is usually flashing (and animated) and quite distracting. There are already ads at the top bottom and both sides and combined those do not nearly irritate me as much as this one ad does.

                                3) Flash. This one is an issue I see other people mentioned also. The animated flash ads that run are both highly distracting and more importantly absolutely destroy battery life. On Linux this issue is worse than anywhere else. I realise this is no fault of your own but it is a big issue for the very people your site targets.

                                4) Topless ads. Although not a concern for me, this seems to really bother some people. It is clear it would be in your interest to remove anything that risks offending users. Some people have mentioned that they stopped visiting your site at work because of this. I am sure they are not alone. This issue is harming your ad revenue.
                                My least-hated types of ads:
                                1) Text (Google ads for example)

                                2) Static Images

                                3) If absolutely unavoidable simple, non-flashing animated ads. A static background colour is a must. This alone makes them 1000x more acceptable.
                                I realise some of these pay revenue on a per click basis and you likely require ads on a per-view basis, but would it not be possible to have more relevant adverts? Technology, games, whatever. This would at least eliminate a large number of adverts people seem to really dislike.

                                To conclude I'd like to make clear that if i gave the impression I was complaining for the sake of complaining I appologise. I honestly do believe, however, that some of the ads displayed will (and do) put people off using the site. Either in general or in public and it is in both of our interests to have adverts that are both less irritating to the reader (higher chance of returning / viewing the site at work / in public) and provide you with more views (and thus revenue).

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