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  • WINE vs. Windows benchmarks

    Hi,

    I'd like to see some benchmarks of recent WINE against Windows. Windows XP would probably be the most reasonable given that it's WINE's default target.

    I'm considering buying a GeForce 9600 GT to play GTA4 on, but I don't want a Windows machine, so if WINE causes a 50% hit I will just buy a PS3.

    Besides, it would be interesting to see how WINE compares to Windows these days.

  • #2
    Buy a PS3, you need a really fast pc and good gfx card to play that game even with Win.

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    • #3
      gta4 is a garbage port to pc already. Dont waste your time.

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      • #4
        Thanks guys

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        • #5
          GTA IV doesn't even work on wine.

          http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManage...ation&iId=8757

          so if you don't mind having to aim with a gamepad, go for the console.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rohcQaH View Post
            GTA IV doesn't even work on wine.
            According to a lot of posts I've read on gaming forums, GTA4 doesn't even work on Windows .

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            • #7
              Well you need a Windows Live account to save (a local one would be enough) and for online games you need a second account. That's really annoying... With a high performance system with 1024 mb vram the gfx can look better than on consoles - it is even one of those games which can use more than 2 cores. It is certainly NOT meant to be played with a cheap gfx card and a lowend cpu

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              • #8
                It'll play on a 9600gt but why. Get a 5670 or 240. You might still have to turn stuff off but who cares really. Play the game not the game of trying to max out the game.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Kano View Post
                  It is certainly NOT meant to be played with a cheap gfx card and a lowend cpu
                  Yeah, I actually have a copy that came as part of a package deal on Steam, but even if it does run I don't think it's going to run well on my Pentium-4 Windows machine. I'll try it out when I eventually buy another gaming PC.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by L33F3R View Post
                    gta4 is a garbage port to pc already. Dont waste your time.
                    Im going to go out on a limb and just assume your computer is junk.

                    GTA4 is a fantastic port. Just because they didnt go the lazy route of making it look like shit to play on more hardware like most other crappy ports dont make it bad. If anything i am sick of these ports that come across looking no better than the 360 or ps3 versions.

                    For once a game was ported and was done so in a way to actually leverage the power a PC can put out. Just look at side by side screenshots its like a whole new game on PC when compared to the consoles.

                    It will however play just fine on a 9600GT in windows, GTA4 is far more reliant on the CPU anyway.

                    It really does get old to have the ignorant half ass gamers complain when a game comes out and cant be maxxed out with their 3 year old machines. Just because your turd of a machine cant play it dont make the game bad or a bad port...

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                    • #11
                      nah, i try to keep my rig 50% more powerful then anything i could use it for at the time . I mean, it was a shit 360-windows port all and all.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by L33F3R View Post
                        nah, i try to keep my rig 50% more powerful then anything i could use it for at the time . I mean, it was a shit 360-windows port all and all.
                        As soon as you explain what makes it a bad port ill begin to take you seriously. Otherwise from what i am reading you're just another person bitching that you cant max it out on a $400 wal-mart rig.

                        A cheap dual core and mid range video card will make GTA 4 look far better than the 360.

                        The work they put into it to make it scale so incredibly well on the PC alone makes it a better than average port. Like i said look at the screenshots side by side and tell me again how shitty of a port it is...

                        It had its bugs at release but it is far from a shitty port. This is whats wrong with so much of the PC gaming market. Rockstar went way the hell out of their way to make a quality port for the PC that actually leverages the power of a PC and the crybabies with cheap rigs call it a bad port because they cant max it.

                        For the uneducated crybabies a good port to the PC SHOULD look far better than its console counterpart. This also means it wont run at max settings on your $400 brown box rig. Ports to the PC that play well yet look no better than the console versions are the bad ports. If you want it to look and play with the quality of the console buy a damn console, i game on the PC for higher quality graphics and gameplay.

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                        • #13
                          i never said it looks like shit, I said it was a shit port. I never said i couldn't run it. I will begin to take you seriously when you learn how to read.

                          Your point about it being a buggy POS, thats the kind of shit that im talking about. Looking at a screenshot and trying to play it are 2 totally different ballgames. Yes i played it on win 7, quad core with a gt260 and guess what? it was a shit port. You can grind on rockstars jock all you want but a shit port is still a shit port. I come to that conclusion comparing it to the PS3 version, which i had also played. Maybe the textures are not as high res on the consoles, but actually being able to play it the way it was made to be played was very rewarding.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by L33F3R View Post
                            i never said it looks like shit, I said it was a shit port. I never said i couldn't run it. I will begin to take you seriously when you learn how to read.
                            I have reading comprehension problems?

                            This is your third post about how its a terrible port and you have yet to give a single reason for saying so.

                            What problems have you had playing it? I bought it at launch from steam and have played it beginning to end 4 times now with 0 issues crashes etc. and still play multiplayer every now and then. My freaking brother played it beginning to end on a shitty laptop with the HD3200 onboard chip on default settings with 0 issues as well.

                            Besides the memory leaks when it was first launched WTF are you talking about exactly?

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                            • #15
                              its been a while so i cannot speak for exactly what happened. However i remember it crashing on me more then a few times. I think because of your steam version it auto updated. I typically dont apply patches for a single player experience. Some of these issues were probably fixed. Still, at point release it was not even close to being worthy of any release at all. I would even go about saying it was worse then BF2, and that was pretty bad. Although BF2 became more broken after every patch they pushed....

                              about me not giving a reason why it sucks:

                              Your point about it being a buggy POS, thats the kind of shit that im talking about
                              So yes, you do have reading comprehension issues.

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