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    Phoronix: Running Benchmarks On Other New Linux Games

    If in recent Linux graphics card reviews and driver articles you have been wanting to see other Linux games benchmarked, you should definitely read this article...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTUyNTU

  • #2
    Thanks

    I appreciate your dedication Mr. Larabel. Keep up the good work.

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    • #3
      Maybe the Metro: LL developer are not eager to provide benchmark support on Linux...
      This game currently does not run very good on Linux compared to the Windows version on my machine (AMD 7950).

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      • #4
        I have the same card, fglrx sucks so it means nothing. To do a fair comparison you have to use a Nvidia card.
        ## VGA ##
        AMD: X1950XTX, HD3870, HD5870
        Intel: GMA45, HD3000 (Core i5 2500K)

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        • #5
          I am a Linux users not a coder. Willing to help if I can though.

          Serious Sam 3 seems to have benchmarks ?

          http://www.serioussam.wikia.com/wiki...nsole_Commands

          bmkResults() - Print the previous benchmarking results to the console, if any.
          bmkStartBenchmarking(float tmStartIn, float tmDuration) - Start benchmarking, starting in tmStartIn seconds and lasting for tmDuration seconds. When done, print the results to the console.
          bmkStopBenchmarking() - Immediately stop benchmarking and print the results. This does nothing if benchmarking isn't currently being done.
          bmk_bAutoQuit [bool, default 0] - Presumably if true then benchmarking will quit when done, but doesn't appear to do anything.
          bmk_bBenchmarkDemos [saved bool, default 0]
          bmk_bOnScreenReport [saved bool, default 1] - If true then an OSD will show benchmarking information while it's going on.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by darkbasic View Post
            I have the same card, fglrx sucks so it means nothing. To do a fair comparison you have to use a Nvidia card.
            This.

            Actually some people claims that it run faster on linux, but it has no tessellation and there's bugs with the illumination sometimes and the textures looks a little blurry, so windows has better graphics but linux runs faster...

            I'm not sure why there's no tessellation... i read somewhere that it's because apple don't have Opengl 4 support... but OSx 10.9 supports 4.1 :S

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            • #7
              Serious Sam falls into the Steam issues.

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              • #8
                People still want it

                Michael automated or not, people still want those tests.
                We shall understand we can't make those tests on our own machine in automated way, but you should process them anyway.

                I put this way, automated vs relevant, I take relevant any time.
                Heck, most people wont bother playing Xonotic anyway. I am sick of Quake 3 clones.

                It's up to you, but point of Internet is to spread knowledge. There is no much point spreading news that everyone and their dog knows about. But relevant information is hard to come by.

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                • #9
                  and one more thing

                  I can install your tests and do them myself. But it's not why i come to your site.
                  I am lazy and i like to be spoon fed. And I come to your site to determine if I can or should buy new hardware I don't have. So i have purpose. I want to know what to buy for games i want to play. And as majority here, I want to buy PC for MetroLL and not for some Quake3 clone.(don't get me wrong they are fine, but i played them a lot, i just have no interest anymore)
                  Last edited by dimko; 11-25-2013, 09:17 AM. Reason: spelling

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dimko View Post
                    Michael automated or not, people still want those tests.
                    We shall understand we can't make those tests on our own machine in automated way, but you should process them anyway.
                    I've already said it; I will not do such manual tests that are prone to inaccuracies, do not leverage PTS features, and are extremely time consuming. I already don't have enough time in a day for completing all of my work let alone any non-work enjoyment. Thus non-automated tests are ruled out especially when many of the people reading the results are AdBlockers, etc.
                    Michael Larabel
                    http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Michael View Post
                      I've already said it; I will not do such manual tests that are prone to inaccuracies, do not leverage PTS features, and are extremely time consuming. I already don't have enough time in a day for completing all of my work let alone any non-work enjoyment. Thus non-automated tests are ruled out especially when many of the people reading the results are AdBlockers, etc.

                      OK I get, its not about "I can't technically do it" - it's "I don't have time for it".
                      Take additional members from community to be editors, someone may as well do those tests him/herself.

                      Frankly, AdBlockers argument is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with content of your web site. I personally made donations and I don't even have adblock. I have script blocker, but i don't use it on your page. Frankly I used it couple of times, when you had some flash advertising that was hanging Firefox! But then again, I disabled it. No matter. I personally want those tests I mentioned before. I pretty much only pay attention to Unigine tests if you mix them in. The rest comes as bonus material. But i don't take them too seriously, as I know their performance may not be relevant for games I will or want to play.

                      I understand your frustration with adblockers and i feel personally sad about you moving on with Photonix. Hope someone will do your job.

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                      • #12
                        and while i am at it

                        I am not pushing my own agenda here. Well, in a sense I do, but it's not the point. I am saying what i think other people want too. I may be a little psychologist myself like that. Peops, please confirm in your message if you agree with me.

                        I have interests of YOUR website in my mind. it's one of 3 pages i wist many times a day, even from work.(which i am not allowed, BTW) I want it to continue that way.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Michael View Post
                          I've already said it; I will not do such manual tests that are prone to inaccuracies, do not leverage PTS features, and are extremely time consuming. I already don't have enough time in a day for completing all of my work let alone any non-work enjoyment. Thus non-automated tests are ruled out especially when many of the people reading the results are AdBlockers, etc.
                          Then you have failed miserably at your job. Your automated tests are usually full of bugs as well. No two computers are identical and as such will never have identical results, hell, run to run the same machine can have very different results hence why you don't run the tests once for a real review to average out the numbers.

                          Perhaps if instead of spending all of that time on searching your own site for random articles to link back to yourself for you would have the time to do the real reviews.

                          And don't give us that copout about Source games being CPU limited, they are no more CPU limited then half of the OSS games you try to pass off as review samples, the main difference bing that people actually play Source games so those numbers are actually relevant compared to OpenArena. On it's worst day this year there where still more people playing CounterStrike 1.6 then have ever played any of the OSS games.

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                          • #14
                            keep the good work michael and don't listen to the forum whiners, if they want it so badly they can make a profile and contribute it to PTS and i agree is a perfect valid point to not run manual tests.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dimko View Post
                              I can install your tests and do them myself. But it's not why i come to your site.
                              I am lazy and i like to be spoon fed. And I come to your site to determine if I can or should buy new hardware I don't have. So i have purpose. I want to know what to buy for games i want to play. And as majority here, I want to buy PC for MetroLL and not for some Quake3 clone.(don't get me wrong they are fine, but i played them a lot, i just have no interest anymore)
                              With that in mind, you are visiting this website for the wrong reasons. Phoronix isn't and never has been a hardware recommendation website, nor is it a hardware enthusiast's website, nor is it a gamer's website. The website largely focuses on open source (mainly linux) news and progress within the open source community. For hardware related tests, its all about how far drivers have progressed in terms of features, stability, performance, and efficiency. The tests are also meant to show how linux is doing compared to other OSes. Why else do you think Michael still writes about hardware released over 10 years ago? That news IS relevant, because not everybody buys the latest and greatest and its nice to know if people can put new use to their retired systems. Michael might not use tests that resemble modern day desires, but they do very effectively show progress between platforms and drivers. Writing articles about games you prefer is not any more or less relevant to the purpose of tests posted on this website - they just simply give out more meaningful numbers.

                              What I really don't understand, though, is if you think it's so easy to just download PTS and run the tests yourself, why is it any harder for you to run benchmarks of the games you care about on your own time? Keep in mind too, the nvidia drivers overall perform on par with Windows. Chances are, if there's a game you want to play that runs natively on Linux as well as Windows, you can get your answer by looking at Windows tests.

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