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    Phoronix: Looking For Linux Hardware In A Easy Shopping List

    After talking about the first week of OpenBenchmarking.org, which was a great success, news of this open and collaborative testing platform made its way to the front page of Slashdot. This resulted in a huge increase in benchmarks pouring in over last night and they keep coming in today. Thanks to this greater data set, here's a new feature that will interest many of you: the ability to easily find compatible GPUs / motherboards / CPUs / disks that are ranked upon how they perform with a given driver and operating system...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=OTE3Nw

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    Radeon X1800 and X1950 are considered high end graphics processors? Really?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by albatorsk View Post
      Radeon X1800 and X1950 are considered high end graphics processors? Really?
      Compared to newer GPUs on open-source drivers, yes. Look at some of the recent Phoronix results indicating the Gallium3D performance relative to Catalyst, etc, and other R300g tests with it being more mature.
      Michael Larabel
      http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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      • #4
        interface

        One of the highest rated comments on ./ was about the interface, which is really hard to navigate. Anyway I'm sure the guys have their hands full just keep the site ui in the todo list.

        Keep up the good work.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by jubei View Post
          One of the highest rated comments on ./ was about the interface, which is really hard to navigate. Anyway I'm sure the guys have their hands full just keep the site ui in the todo list.

          Keep up the good work.
          Thanks.

          Yeah, UI design is the part I hate the most and am the worst at... So any specific items for improvement are much appreciated. It's easy to change the UI when I know what to change.
          Michael Larabel
          http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Michael View Post
            TSo any specific items for improvement are much appreciated. It's easy to change the UI when I know what to change.
            The UI really needs a lot of work. I can see the site has lots of really usefull functions for joining data and comparing but it's really hard to use. Imagine I want to compare the performance of an Athlon II X4 to that of a Core2Quad. The only way to do that (that I can see) is to come up with a magical search string that will return results for both of them. That's impossible right now.
            Also, there should be some kind of normalization on the test names that appear when doing a search, because using the name that the user wrote isn't very helpful. If I'm looking for results about a CPU, the CPU names should be the name of the tests, that is the first thing in the test boxes in bold, and not something like "disk-test-number34". You also need a lot of work in the algorythm for coming up with the prices:

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            • #7
              macbook air

              I'm not sure about you, but i wouldn't classify the macbook air as a "motherboard", also where can i get one for the $20 it shows as the price....

              I agree about the interface. I can't find a link to the indexes, so i resorted to URL hacking...

              Also as this is just performance there is no way to know that "wireless card A" gets 20kbps more bandwidth than "wireless card B" but sometimes crashes causing a kernel panic or that the onboard USB on motherboard Y sometimes just quits working requiring a reboot.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Michael View Post
                Thanks.

                Yeah, UI design is the part I hate the most and am the worst at... So any specific items for improvement are much appreciated. It's easy to change the UI when I know what to change.
                I have a feeling most people are going to come to the site to see if "XYZ" works, or to compare some things, like "q6600 C2D vs. X4 955" or "6750, 5770 Vs GTS450, GTX470, GTX580 while using fglrx and nvidia drivers"

                A search I would like to do is "all cpus under 95W TDP, that fit in sockets 1156, 1155, AM3, sorted by test result X when the test systems have 8GB of ram" Now this gets tricky as there is a 95W variant of the the 1055T X6, and a 125W version as well.

                Right now there seems to be no way to get useful comparisons out of your database with confidence numbers. Most of the CPU tests will need to be nominalized for amount of RAM and maybe even disk speed. Unless all of the CPU tests are small enough to fit in the cache of the CPU and do not require much in the way of disk access.

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                • #9
                  Busy day... here's another new feature: http://openbenchmarking.org/blog/Per...Index_Profiles
                  Michael Larabel
                  http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by cynyr View Post
                    I'm not sure about you, but i wouldn't classify the macbook air as a "motherboard", also where can i get one for the $20 it shows as the price....
                    Apple reports MacBook Air to the sysfs interface as the motherboard string.

                    Pricing bug, should be fixed next time the pricing cache for it updates itself.

                    Originally posted by cynyr View Post
                    I agree about the interface. I can't find a link to the indexes, so i resorted to URL hacking... .
                    Along the top; 'Hardware Index' link
                    Michael Larabel
                    http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                    • #11
                      use cases

                      Originally posted by Michael View Post
                      Thanks.

                      Yeah, UI design is the part I hate the most and am the worst at... So any specific items for improvement are much appreciated. It's easy to change the UI when I know what to change.
                      Think of pages as use cases. Here are some conceivable, where components is system software + system hardware and benchmarks are the results:

                      1) Browse all components at will
                      2) Browse all benchmarks results at will
                      3) Browse benchmarks for 1 component
                      4) Browse component for 1 benchmark
                      5) Browse benchmarks for 2+ component using constraints
                      6) Browse component for 2+ benchmarks using constraints

                      For example, if I want to see the results for 7 zip only. The resulting page gives me

                      1) A long list of included submissions. The information is relevant but should be way down on the result page.

                      2) SYSTEM which is a nice scrollable description of the systems including 7zip benchmark.

                      3) "Overview" which is a huge table containing very little information. Just which other benchmarks are included by the current systems

                      4) A huge list of graphs with my 7zip results somewhere, deeply embedded among other graphs I didn't ask for. Take the 7zip graph and present that first on the page!!!

                      This approach could be used for the other use cases as well, present what is asked for at the very top. Other information can be included in other pages, expandable folders etc, but still, what the user asks for should always be presented first.

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                      • #12
                        These 2 new features are much appreciated. They're starting to show some interesting stuff (like that Seagate ST9250410ASG drive for ~50$ ).

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Michael View Post
                          Thanks.

                          Yeah, UI design is the part I hate the most and am the worst at... So any specific items for improvement are much appreciated. It's easy to change the UI when I know what to change.
                          @Michael

                          the concept of making it more usable (easy to use) is not so hard, just think you are making it as easy that even your kids or folks can get started.

                          Imagine you're not familiar with the tech part and is the first time you're going to use it

                          just take a hint from google (minimalistic), apple (good design) and ubuntu (the mid point)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by madjr View Post
                            @Michael

                            the concept of making it more usable (easy to use) is not so hard, just think you are making it as easy that even your kids or folks can get started.

                            Imagine you're not familiar with the tech part and is the first time you're going to use it

                            just take a hint from google (minimalistic), apple (good design) and ubuntu (the mid point)
                            Right, I am a big fan of minimal/simplistic designs and such, as most of you probably already knew or can easily tell, but when it comes to the actual interface and colors and such is where I have the biggest challenge pulling everything together since that's not my area of expertise (and not doing a whole lot of HTML design stuff in years). There's a small queue of features already in fact ready for OpenBenchmarking.org but still trying to decide how to expose them all without putting a load of check boxes, input fields, etc all over the pages.
                            Michael Larabel
                            http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                            • #15
                              Hardware lists should now be larger after some tweaks were made.
                              Michael Larabel
                              http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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