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OK, people seems Michael got low results on Xonotic for some... not sure about reason, does anybody of you maybe use Unity (Ubuntu's DE)
Seems not/ seems yes... but it might be Unity or some other overhead for MIcheal as wee see Mint, Mageia and SteamOS all goes higherLast edited by dungeon; 26 July 2015, 05:45 PM.
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I really think old games like Xonotic, OpenArena etc. should be avoided for benchmarking, considering that at high fps the way drivers and GLs are managed and calculate make this FPS counter have no sense...
Only games below 100fps can be compared seriously.
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Originally posted by Passso View PostI really think old games like Xonotic, OpenArena etc. should be avoided for benchmarking, considering that at high fps the way drivers and GLs are managed and calculate make this FPS counter have no sense...
And also to indicate problem with setup or software or drivers, etc... which in this case with Xonotic Michael has.
Xonotic easely shows CPU bound cases or openarena shows how much some GPU then drivers then setups are bandwidth bound
Only games below 100fps can be compared seriously.Last edited by dungeon; 27 July 2015, 10:50 AM.
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Originally posted by dungeon View Post
Those still made sense with opensource drivers teting, not high end cards, on 4K+ resolutions, people running 144Hz monitors, etc...
And also to indicate problem with setup or software or drivers, etc... which in this case with Xonotic Michael has.
Xonotic easely shows CPU bound cases or openarena shows how much some GPU then drivers then setups are bandwidth bound
EDIT: What I'm saying is that benchmarking software you don't use at settings you don't use can -not- be extrapolated for the software that you do use at the settings that you do use.Last edited by duby229; 27 July 2015, 10:55 AM.
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Purpose of public benchmarking on phoronix is to compare different software and hardware setups, comparison of GPU, CPU, drivers, etc... That said 'openarena' phoronix's benchmark does made sense for comparions of those.
While in real openarena is nowhere that slow, it does not have for example 'r_bloom_reflection' on by default, but also that option does not exist in current ioquake So all this means, it is setted up to - benchmark hardware, not what people use.
What is purpose of 3DMark or OK here Unigine benchmarks, no one use that really to play anything nor to watch how "beautiful" scenes are - for users it is only usefull for api/hardware/drivers comparison purpose.
Of course beside that people like to see how hardware XYZ cope with popular titles, i agree on thatLast edited by dungeon; 27 July 2015, 11:25 AM.
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Originally posted by dungeon View PostPurpose of public benchmarking on phoronix is to compare different software and hardware setups, comparison of GPU, CPU, drivers, etc... That said 'openarena' phoronix's benchmark does made sense for comparions of those.
While in real openarena is nowhere that slow, it does not have for example 'r_bloom_reflection' on by default, but also that option does not exist in current ioquake So all this means, it is setted up to - benchmark hardware, not what people use.
What is purpose of 3DMark or OK here Unigine benchmarks, no one use that really to play anything nor to watch how "beautiful" scenes are - for users it is only usefull for api/hardware/drivers comparison purpose.
Of course beside that people like to see how hardware XYZ cope with popular titles, i agree on that
Software like Unigine benches and 3DMark have 0 value for anyone. You can say that they are useful for regression testing or whatever, but the facts are that those results cannot be extrapolated. If you want to know how your hardware performs with the software you use in the settings that you use, then you need to benchmark that.Last edited by duby229; 27 July 2015, 11:37 AM.
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Originally posted by duby229 View PostBenching software you don't use on hardware you don't use with settings that you don't use does not tell anything at all.
Originally posted by duby229 View PostSoftware like Unigine benches and 3DMark have 0 value for anyone.Last edited by dungeon; 27 July 2015, 11:44 AM.
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Originally posted by dungeon View Post
It tells, if you try to understand particular benchmark purpose. For example i expect openarena to show at its best how AMD Fury is not bandwidth bound thanks to HBM
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