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  • Microsoft ASP.NET vNext Is Open-Source, Runs On Linux

    Phoronix: Microsoft ASP.NET vNext Is Open-Source, Runs On Linux

    Microsoft announced .NET vNext and ASP.NET vNext at their TechEd North America conference today. ASP.NET vNext is the next-generation version of their server-side Web application framework and it's now cloud-oriented. Microsoft is supporting ASP.NET vNext under Linux via Mono...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTY4ODI

  • #2
    Love it! C# is a really great language which I use a lot at work, but the lack of proper cross-platform-support (esp. when it comes to development ... have fun getting nuget and mvc4 to run in mono) is always a little off-putting, considering my laptop is an Air (and I don't want to install Windows on it, thank you very much). If we now get a truly open-source cross-platform .net platform that would be epic.

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    • #3
      And here I, a C# developer and huge fan of Mono, had hoped that ASP(.NET) would finally die. They could've ported WPF to mono instead...or make XWT feature complete. But this? This is something nobody needs and many people will still use because buzzwords.

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      • #4
        well if C# was a properly compiled language with proper memory management it would be a pretty neat language for linux devs but as is currently implemented i doubt will gain any traction, well i guess for people that already have windows servers would be good to fast port some services to linux or mac though. Although never seen a .NET app for mac/IOS/Android so im not sure ho hot is it outside the windows realm in real world apps

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        • #5
          Originally posted by jrch2k8 View Post
          well if C# was a properly compiled language with proper memory management it would be a pretty neat language for linux devs but as is currently implemented i doubt will gain any traction, well i guess for people that already have windows servers would be good to fast port some services to linux or mac though. Although never seen a .NET app for mac/IOS/Android so im not sure ho hot is it outside the windows realm in real world apps
          There are actually quite a bunch of mobile applications using Mono. And Monogame is populair under the indie developers.

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          • #6
            Go and throw that piece of utter ugly software out of the Windows.

            We don't like C#, Mono and any other thing coming from the patent pool of Microsoft. Icaza is just a traitor and could very well shut up and disappear in the dark, alone, without making any noise.

            Mono shouldn't be used for nothing else than writing crap software for Winblows.

            Damn it, false free software is not free software. Open Source != Free (libre) Software.

            It's a Trap, Admiral Obvious Ackbar agrees.
            Last edited by Filiprino; 05-12-2014, 05:06 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Filiprino View Post
              Go and throw that piece of utter ugly software out of the Windows.

              We don't like C#, Mono and any other thing coming from the patent pool of Microsoft. Icaza is just a traitor and could very well shut up and disappear in the dark, alone, without making any noise.

              Mono shouldn't be used for nothing else than writing crap software for Winblows.

              Damn it, false free software is not free software. Open Source != Free (libre) Software.

              It's a Trap, Admiral Obvious Ackbar agrees.
              So now that it's fully 100% protected by the Apache License that the actual reasoning behind this idiocy fully comes out and is that you nuts just irrationally hate Microsoft and anything coming from it, no matter the license or grants. Meanwhile I'm sure you're all praises and joy for Apple and Sun Microsystems/Oracle...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Luke_Wolf View Post
                So now that it's fully 100% protected by the Apache License that the actual reasoning behind this idiocy fully comes out and is that you nuts just irrationally hate Microsoft and anything coming from it, no matter the license or grants. Meanwhile I'm sure you're all praises and joy for Apple and Sun Microsystems/Oracle...
                Apache License doesn't mean free of patents.

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                • #9
                  Forking

                  Originally posted by Filiprino View Post
                  Apache License doesn't mean free of patents.
                  But a GPL fork of that Apache code may mean exactly that.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LauRoman View Post
                    But a GPL fork of that Apache code may mean exactly that.
                    I don't understand how a patent encumbered technology idea could be free of patents by forking an implementation of it and licensing it under GPL.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Luke_Wolf View Post
                      So now that it's fully 100% protected by the Apache License that the actual reasoning behind this idiocy fully comes out and is that you nuts just irrationally hate Microsoft and anything coming from it, no matter the license or grants. Meanwhile I'm sure you're all praises and joy for Apple and Sun Microsystems/Oracle...
                      You lack imagination if you think this is all good and have no clue as to how there could possibly be any hidden gotchas. This is microsoft we're talking about here - do you really think they are trying to promote Linux now?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by david_lynch View Post
                        You lack imagination if you think this is all good and have no clue as to how there could possibly be any hidden gotchas. This is microsoft we're talking about here - do you really think they are trying to promote Linux now?
                        Yeah, it's Microsoft... so? Are they really any worse than Google, Apple, Oracle or any big tech company? Remember, they've been through several changes of leadership in past years, and slipped from their position of dominance... they're not the same old evil-empire that a lot of people still seem to think of them as.

                        In this case, it's not hard to see what they're doing. Their platform is a very distant third when it comes to mobile, and to change that, they need to convince developers to use their toolchain, to build apps with C# and the rest. They're not trying to promote Linux - but if they can get Linux developers using .NET to build apps for Windows Phone, it's an improvement for them. And they probably *don't* have a bunch of hidden gotchas, because they can't afford to antagonise people by using dirty tricks to lock them in.

                        Essentially, what I'm saying is that MS are currently in the position of "don't be evil" because being evil would only weaken their position further...
                        Last edited by Delgarde; 05-12-2014, 08:07 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by david_lynch View Post
                          You lack imagination if you think this is all good and have no clue as to how there could possibly be any hidden gotchas. This is microsoft we're talking about here - do you really think they are trying to promote Linux now?
                          You lack imagination. They are not trying to promote Linux, they are trying to promote .NET.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jrch2k8 View Post
                            well if C# was a properly compiled language with proper memory management it would be a pretty neat language for linux devs but as is currently implemented i doubt will gain any traction, well i guess for people that already have windows servers would be good to fast port some services to linux or mac though. Although never seen a .NET app for mac/IOS/Android so im not sure ho hot is it outside the windows realm in real world apps
                            You should take a look at Vala, it's a well done C#

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Desiderantes View Post
                              You should take a look at Vala, it's a well done C#
                              well i prefer C/C++ always but i heard many good things about vala(would be nice to replace android java core) on the other hand if i were xamarin i would focus entirely on IOS/Android(maybe) cuz in linux C#is a no go from long long time ago and i doubt that will ever change specially since QT5 has gotten really really good with C++ and QML lately

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