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  • #46
    If I understand it correctly then there are just a few preloaded bookmarks/tiles when you open a fresh profile. What the hell are people getting upset about?

    Internets.....

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    • #47
      Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
      Their moms pack them one every day.
      i give you two internets

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      • #48
        Nothing in the world is even remotely close to resembling a free market. EVERY economy is either centrally planned or mixed with strong elements of central planning. Even money itself is a state-run enterprise and competition is often illegal or intentially regulated or bullied out of existance. The whole idea that free markets is a failure is non-sense. Nearly all of the arguments against free markets are really arguments against mixed markets. At the end of the day, you either believe in liberty, authority, or a combination of the two. Btw, even utopian anarcho syndicalist communities have majorites that impose their will on minorities, especially the individual.

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        • #49
          I honestly cannot believe the insanity and chaos coming from this.

          1: It costs money for Mozilla to do stuff, and they're going to be doing even more work because of their new Rust language.
          Mozilla was making most of their money through Google anyways.
          Google being the default search and being used in Firefox meant $$ for Mozilla which is good for all of us web browser users.

          2: Chrome itself is Google search, and Google search is driven by Ads, and Ads is how Google makes money.
          Firefox has default Google search, which is driven by Ads, and Ads is how Google and Mozilla make money.
          It's just different ads. Rev it down.

          3: Settle down and post your Capitalism/Socialism stuff in another thread. Whether something is right or not we can debate over but it doesn't change the fact that these developers need money. The theory of Capitalism and the Free Market is that if you have a better product, you will be making more money. We all know that it doesn't always work like that in the real world, so please, organize your thoughts and debates just a little so I don't have an aneurysm trying to make sense of it all.
          Last edited by profoundWHALE; 02-12-2014, 03:54 PM.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by ObiWan View Post
            It's just some default bookmarks on the new tab page, like Opera, nothing to really worry about.
            And only on fresh profiles.
            This ^
            Back to the topic at hand (how did this get turned into a governmental discussion?), these are only showing pre-pinned sites (like Amazon, Ebay, whatever) in the new tab place FOR NEW PROFILES. If you're a person who's already pinned tabs to all 9 (or more, if you added more via about:config) then it won't affect you. If you create a new profile, it will show pre-pinned sites that you can quickly get rid of (by unpinning them). Seriously guys, way to make a big deal out of nothing.

            As for the person who suggested Google might have stopped paying them, I'm sure Microsoft would jump at the chance to get in as Firefox's default search.

            With this, they can get some extra money from, say, Amazon without it being related to search but with it being literally a single click to get rid of if users don't want it.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
              Their moms pack them one every day.

              touché. You've won the Series of Tubes ™ award.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
                A big fuck you to mozilla if they implement something like that.

                Also to all the morons that say capitalism sucks go live in Cuba or north Korea. Then come and repeat these bullshit.
                The problem with USA and other "rich countries" people, is that they still live with some amount of comfort and don't get to really think what is really the nature of Capitalism...

                Do you understand where the US high standard of living comes from?

                It doesn't come from your high productivity... Actually, you produce far less goods and services for the standard of living you are currently enjoying...

                Your nice standard of living comes from the status of the dollar. You can print as many dollars as you want, and they have value because most of the world trade and of course, OIL, has to be done in US dollars...

                And if someone doesn't want to receive dollars for their goods, oh well, you have some nice bombs to show them, like you did with Sadam, Gaddafi and other folks (oh, i forgot, it was about "democracy")...

                So, in fact, your high standard of living for the last decades is based on your weapons, and your threats to use them on any country that doesn't comply... Any wonder why the whole world hates your guts?

                Capitalism is wrong, it is based on the fallacy that perpetual expansion is possible... It is not. And sooner or later it will collapse globaly, no matter how many tricks the elite does...

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Prescience500 View Post
                  Nothing in the world is even remotely close to resembling a free market
                  And you dear sir, need to have yoyr brain scrubbed ... by hanging on bitcointalk.org for 30-60 minutes daily. You will become a Ron Paul on steroids in no time! (or was it Ru Paul?) And you will reinvent free markets all over again. Show those bloody fools at wall street .... butcoin is God!

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
                    There's a difference between political systems - democracy, dictatorship, etc. - and economic systems - capitalism, socialism, communism, etc..
                    Hi smitty3268,
                    I'm currently translating this 74 page document

                    http://cromalternativemoney.org/inde...n-freeman.html

                    into English and Italian language (almost done). It's not easy at all.
                    I would be grateful if you could explain me your ideas a little bit better.

                    I cannot comprehend... how is possible... if from the very beginning ALL political systems are based on one same thing - the state - and state is a worst dictator by itself, how can democracy, communism, capitalism and fascism for example be different from one another? The same question is valid also for the different economic systems, cause as far as I know, these ar the facts (second half of red and green text):

                    http://cromalternativemoney.org/inde...ion-of-society

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Detructor View Post
                      erh that's just wrong.

                      NK is a dictatorship, that can't be communism by definition.

                      And Cuba is a mix of socialism and dictatorship

                      As of now, no country was ever communist driven as it's only possible with robotic technology. As long as even one human has to work to keep the society alive, communism isn't possible. Robotics solve that problem because once they're all set up, you don't need humans anymore for resource harvesting/producing goods.
                      1) So what will human do? Unemployed people are paid here, for a long time. To do nothing. Mostly, they do not seem happy.
                      2) If I have only my arms to produce goods for improving my life, I'll use my arms. If I have a robot and my arms to produce good for improving my life, I'll use the robot and my arms. There is no magical level where humanity has "enough" (unless it's when needs are fulfilled, and experience shows that most people do not stop there when they reach that) that it can stop using available capital without making any difference. There can be a point though where most of human workforce becomes uncompetitive (compared to robotic workforce), and at that point, because of 1, all these people feeling useless may not feel like living the utopia you paint.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by MartinN View Post
                        butcoin is God!
                        Beliefs that condition our lives are not expensive, and the more we consume them, the more real they become. But what is believed is a product that has no common ground with the truth, since it is a totally different notion...

                        http://cromalternativemoney.org/inde...-all-time#2776

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by TemplarGR View Post
                          Capitalism is wrong, it is based on the fallacy that perpetual expansion is possible... It is not. And sooner or later it will collapse globaly, no matter how many tricks the elite does...
                          OMG, you so hit the nail on the head - I agree, capitalism is done, finished, finito, kaput! I too give it only until the second coming of Jesus Christ.... after that, it's anyone's guess.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by TemplarGR View Post
                            The problem with USA and other "rich countries" people, is that they still live with some amount of comfort and don't get to really think what is really the nature of Capitalism...

                            Do you understand where the US high standard of living comes from?

                            It doesn't come from your high productivity... Actually, you produce far less goods and services for the standard of living you are currently enjoying...

                            Your nice standard of living comes from the status of the dollar. You can print as many dollars as you want, and they have value because most of the world trade and of course, OIL, has to be done in US dollars...

                            And if someone doesn't want to receive dollars for their goods, oh well, you have some nice bombs to show them, like you did with Sadam, Gaddafi and other folks (oh, i forgot, it was about "democracy")...

                            So, in fact, your high standard of living for the last decades is based on your weapons, and your threats to use them on any country that doesn't comply... Any wonder why the whole world hates your guts?

                            Capitalism is wrong, it is based on the fallacy that perpetual expansion is possible... It is not. And sooner or later it will collapse globaly, no matter how many tricks the elite does...
                            The point about petrodollar warfare could be correct but it has nothing to do with capitalism. I'm not sure how you mix those two.

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                            • #59
                              Thank you, Prescience500.
                              i think it's funny that there are people that think that an institution whose independence can be revoken by the state are completely independent from the state. It is clearly nonsense. (Yes, i am refering to the FED)
                              When the most important thing in the free market (Gold,money) is controlled by the state, it is clearly not a free market ..

                              But i mean it, thank you. I often try to explain it to people, but they are all brainwashed by the public schools, which are controlled by the state, at least here in Germany. Sadly, not many here learned out of socialism and national SOCIALISM.

                              People are influenced since their childhood and i like to quote Mike Baxter here: "These kids are into big government. No surprise. Teenagers are used to spending other people's money."

                              For all the adblock junkies here, i have an extra firefox profile for sites like phoronix WITHOUT adblock/noscript, because i think, they do something for me for free and it is an easy way for me by clicking some adds to give something back. So please, disable your adblock for phoronix or get a premium account.


                              Sorry for my bad english and sorry that my first post is kinda offtopic.

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                              • #60
                                Would be ok, as long as:
                                1- It's really limited to the empty page. So, no wasted screen estate, no disgusting youtube style popup ads, etc.
                                2- Doesn't interrupt your experience. i.e. doesn't block you from continuing to use Firefox until you close the ad, or until the ad is loaded.
                                3- It has no effect on performance (startup time, new tab time, etc).
                                4- It doesn't start spying on you in order to give you better ads.

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