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    Phoronix: Linux Developers Asked To Distance Themselves From RMS

    A supposed Linux kernel developer has called upon Linus Torvalds and other kernel developers to take action against Richard Stallman and the GNU/Linux naming controversy...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTU1MTI

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      Liam Lindholm probably works for a popcorn company.

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      • #4
        I really like to see the BSD useland replacing the GNU useland on Linux distros.

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          Jeez. Not using the GNU userland would definitely make the naming controversy go away. Just pull in the FreeBSD userland and problem solved ... I seriously doubt *BSD developers would request the system be called BSD/Linux.

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            Image Thread?


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            • #7
              Poor RMS...

              I can understand his frustration at not being the poster boy after all the technical work that he did. At the end of the day, though, by now he should know life isn't fair.

              The GNU code base is degrading though, maybe he should go back and do some coding. Note that people are moving from GCC to LLVM (and not just due to licensing concerns).

              Well... if it's any consolation to him, I don't use GNU/Linux or Linux, I use Fedora.

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              • #8
                WTF did I just read?

                So lemme get this straight... some dude pretending to be a kernel programmer says something stupid on the LKML and it becomes newsworthy? Why?

                Oh... more click-bait. I see now.

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                • #9
                  What a complete fucking tool. NOBODY has ever said the Linux kernel should be renamed in recognition of GNU; it's the OSes which use both the GNU userland and the Linux kernel that are Stallman's concern.

                  Why is Phoronix running articles to inflate some idiot's sense of self-importance again?

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                  • #10
                    I was not aware LignuX has been proposed. That is rather smart and certainly a hacky name. I think I'm gonna begin to use it.
                    Last edited by moilami; 12-23-2013, 04:16 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Linux vs GNU/Linux has it's own Wikipedia entry, no need for a news ....

                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Lin...ng_controversy


                      In my opinion Linux won, GNU/Linux is only used by a minority of geeks.

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                      • #12
                        RMS has always been an impractical idealist. However, things that were considered his feverish dreams are now mainstream. To be able to move forward, there must be people advocating for an ideal world or we will stop approaching it.

                        While the proportion of GNU code in a modern Linux distribution is not what it was before, still in each Ubuntu or Fedora or even Android, there is far more GNU than Linux. There is a bunch of competing projects that sometimes reduce that, but it is very important to never forget where we came from. The whole closed source saga was posiible, because early programmers simply did not understand the values and global benefits of software freedom that they then had. We must never forget the lessons of software history or we shall be doomed to repeat it.
                        Latvian Open Source Association co-founder, Debian Developer, Pythonista

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by moilami View Post
                          I was not aware LignuX has been proposed.
                          Neither was i and i am shocked by the possibility that that presentation on imgur might have actually been written by rms, and not somebody making fun of him.


                          From the slides:
                          BEING RIGHT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN BEING UNDERSTOOD
                          And starting a silly campaign to rename someone else's 20 year old widely used software is more important than arguing about it in a silly forum thread. oh wait

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                            Originally posted by blinxwang View Post
                            What a complete fucking tool. NOBODY has ever said the Linux kernel should be renamed in recognition of GNU; it's the OSes which use both the GNU userland and the Linux kernel that are Stallman's concern.

                            Why is Phoronix running articles to inflate some idiot's sense of self-importance again?
                            +1.

                            My theory: sometimes Michael needs to publish some controversial content to generate more traffic and more money with ads. Normal...

                            In my opinion: call it GNU. The name of an operating system is given by its userland and the kernel has no relevance in this (can be Hurd, Linux, FreeBSD...). For example, Android has its own userland (with some parts from BSD), it uses Linux and nobody calls it a Linux distribution.

                            Edit: in the presentation:
                            "The Linux kernel is a stopgap until the GNU kernel has benn fine-tuned anyway."

                            Oh, wait... Dreams...
                            Last edited by nachoig; 12-23-2013, 04:25 PM.

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                            • #15
                              How about "Gnlnxgrrbrk" instead?

                              And why does this deserve an article? Some random person posts crap on the kernel list, it becomes a Phoronix article?

                              Ah yeah, forgot, ad whoring.

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