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  • Originally posted by Honton View Post
    You mean like all the former KDE developers who left KDE? Anyway if you don't have anything to add but ad hominem attacks there might be a better place for you. Fact is that KDE is running out of options and those who want to sell enterprise level linux decided for Gnome over KDE. That is what you need to discuss. How do you feel about SUSE going Gnome only for the coming SLE 12 products?
    OK. Gnome kills KDE, if that's what you wanted.
    Now just shut up because this thread not helping neither gnome or KDE
    We should be supporting all free software projects

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    • Originally posted by lolnope View Post
      We should be supporting all free software projects
      Did you not create a thread yesterday bashing systemd and the FOSS developer Lennart Poettering?

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      • Originally posted by Honton View Post
        Thank you for being honest. That can be scary sometimes. KDE's time is up, and there is no need to go into trenches in total denial. Your feelings or my feelings are of no interest. What matters is the post-KDE world. Where to go?
        The KDE free software community is still very active. Using inaccurate ohloh commit stats (you shouldn't be using commit stats at all) and what distributions use/don't use KDE as the default DE to determine whether GNOME "kills" KDE is just insane.
        Go get yer head checked, yo.

        You did manage to troll for almost 300 replies now, so I guess I should congratulate you on that. Congratulations.
        Last edited by Ouroboros; 03-06-2014, 06:23 AM.

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        • Originally posted by Ouroboros View Post
          Did you not create a thread yesterday bashing systemd and the FOSS developer Lennart Poettering?
          I got a bit mad when he mentioned writing a c library and an email programming for systemd
          Turns out it was an April fool's joke

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          • Originally posted by Honton View Post
            I really enjoyed how you managed to dismiss several sources and the come up with an opposite conclusion. What was your point again? Oh and please stop talking about the commit straw man. The rest of us talk about contributors.
            Another day, another KDE release, close to 18 years now. 17 years of GNOME trying to kill it have apparently been very successful.

            It's time to fuel up the FUD machine, because it's not working well. You keep telling us it's dead, yet they keep on releasing stuff -- just the other day Krita released a new version.

            You are the least reliable source of information on the Internet. Every day you tell us it's dead, and every day you're wrong.

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            • true that

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              • Originally posted by Honton View Post
                You make your own conclusions by twisting my words.
                Your words are "GNOME kills KDE".

                Not "GNOME is killing KDE".

                And I see neither, really. KDE is happily releasing updates to the stable branch, and alphas for the new, next-generation desktop. Important KDE apps like Krita are coming out regularly.

                KDE is more alive than ever.

                I never said Gnome have been killing KDE for 17 years.
                You don't have to, that is why the ex-Microsoft employee Miguel de Icaza started the GNOME project in the first place. That much is common knowledge.

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                • Oh let's just agree that Honton is right and KDE is dying. After all also Honton is dying. Everybody is dying starting from the very first day. For some it takes longer, for some it takes shorter. But quite certainly KDE will die at some day and thus Honton is right that KDE is dying.

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                  • Originally posted by Honton View Post
                    Instead of wasting time discussing semantics you should remove some more features from KDE.
                    Oh, so this is a "removing features is bad" week again?

                    Like when you ran a holy war against people who wanted the classic GNOME session. And then when it got re-added due to popular demand, you jumped ship again...

                    It's hard to keep up, sometimes you want more features, sometimes fewer. It would be easier if you made up your mind and advocated a consistent position instead of making things up as you go along.

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                    • Originally posted by Honton View Post
                      Instead of wasting time discussing semantics you should remove some more features from KDE.
                      fun fact, I just did that :-P https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/116636/

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                      • Originally posted by Honton View Post
                        I really enjoyed how you managed to dismiss several sources and the come up with an opposite conclusion. What was your point again? Oh and please stop talking about the commit straw man. The rest of us talk about contributors.
                        Dear Honton,

                        why should he not dismiss those sources, when you yet have to show us, how they make "Gnome kill KDE" or "KDE dying"?
                        Letīs sum up your facts:

                        - 2 Enterprise distros STAY with Gnome = no change, but to die is a severe change = argument invalid for your thesis
                        - 1 distro (debian) does not switch to KDE = no change = argument invalid for your thesis
                        - 1 distro with kde died = and no distro with Gnome ever died? = argument invalid for your thesis
                        - 1 distro switched to Gnome = there are also distros switching from Gnome (ubuntu, maybe debian 8); or distros that chose KDE over Gnome (like manjaro, only Gnome-community edition) = argument weak for your thesis
                        - 2 distros where KDE (might) lose QA = I found no source for openSUSE changing KDE QA and the "might" for Fedora.next is still a "might" = argument weak for your thesis
                        - Qt has CLA = offtopic
                        - Oloh developer numbers = kde digest (more accurate) shows: KDE developer numbers dropped from 250 (2008) to 200 (2011) to 160 (2013) = this is your only valid argument, but it is still only a very slow death and the standard deviation with 35 is quite high. Come back again when developer count dropped below 100.

                        Honton, this is my last reply to you until you bring NEW facts. roll_eyes

                        cheers, tomme

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                        • Originally posted by mgraesslin View Post
                          fun fact, I just did that :-P https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/116636/
                          there also should be an "auto" option for users who donīt know what opengl is...

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                          • Originally posted by tomtomme View Post
                            there also should be an "auto" option for users who donīt know what opengl is...
                            That's what we have defaults for ;-) By default (and default meaning user doesn't touch anything) KWin picks the best fitting settings for the user's system. To ensure that users don't needless play with these settings we plan to split the configuration module into one dedicated to the effects and one dedicated to the advanced settings.

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                            • Originally posted by Honton View Post
                              Dear tomme. Thank you for confirming that KDE is dying. Im proud of you finally accepting the facts.
                              I think I mentioned it before: it would be more interesting to investigate why the number was so high in 2008 because that's what looks wrong to me, not the numbers today. Concerning the numbers today I pointed out that both the numbers of ohloh.net and commit-digest are not reliable. ohloh.net is missing repositories, commit-digest is thinking that I'm the author if I push commits from others (which happens rather frequently now in the git days).

                              Or quite simple: don't trust any statistic you haven't faked yourself. We know that the numbers are wrong, let's not interpret anything into it.

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                              • Originally posted by mgraesslin View Post
                                I think I mentioned it before: it would be more interesting to investigate why the number was so high in 2008 because that's what looks wrong to me, not the numbers today.
                                Indeed. KDE commit digests for 2004 are consistently under 200 developers.

                                Which means that KDE is approaching a new golden era!

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