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  • Originally posted by DanL View Post
    DO NOT FEED. DO NOT FEED. DO NOT FEED.

    I swear, people should have to pass an IQ test before they're allowed to have an internet connection and a keyboard at the same time...
    There is a real issue here.

    1. RHEL can't deliver KDE because a) it employs almost all GNOME developers and b) KDE needs to be updated to work reliably, and RHEL can't deliver updates as fast as needed. RHEL 6 uses KDE 4.3. That says all.

    2. Debian had issues packaging KDE. If you want KDE 4.11, you want Debian Testing. SteamOS uses Debian Stable.

    If you want an enterprise level distro featuring KDE, you want SLES/SLED. SLES/SLED 11 featured KDE 3.5.10 with an extensive SuSE patchset that became the basis of the only true bugfixes delivered with Trinity. SLES/SLED 12 is going to be the release with an enterprise-level Plasma Desktop, so, that's going to be the one to watch.

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    • Originally posted by Alejandro Nova View Post
      There is a real issue here.
      But none of that has anything to do with Gnome killing KDE.

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      • Originally posted by Alejandro Nova View Post
        There is a real issue here.

        1. RHEL can't deliver KDE because a) it employs almost all GNOME developers and b) KDE needs to be updated to work reliably, and RHEL can't deliver updates as fast as needed. RHEL 6 uses KDE 4.3. That says all.

        2. Debian had issues packaging KDE. If you want KDE 4.11, you want Debian Testing. SteamOS uses Debian Stable.

        If you want an enterprise level distro featuring KDE, you want SLES/SLED. SLES/SLED 11 featured KDE 3.5.10 with an extensive SuSE patchset that became the basis of the only true bugfixes delivered with Trinity. SLES/SLED 12 is going to be the release with an enterprise-level Plasma Desktop, so, that's going to be the one to watch.
        SteamOS uses many user space packages from testing

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        • Originally posted by Alejandro Nova View Post
          There is a real issue here.

          1. RHEL can't deliver KDE because a) it employs almost all GNOME developers and b) KDE needs to be updated to work reliably, and RHEL can't deliver updates as fast as needed. RHEL 6 uses KDE 4.3. That says all.
          RHEL 6.x shipped GNOME 2.x rather than GNOME 3.x, also RHEL 7 beta ships KDE 4.10.5.

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          • 1. Can't deliver as default (fixed, thanks )
            2. That's right, GNOME does not kill KDE. I was trying to turn this thread into a sane conversation.
            3. Does SteamOS fetch KDE packages from Testing?

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            • steamos with kde

              Originally posted by Alejandro Nova View Post
              1. Can't deliver as default (fixed, thanks )
              2. That's right, GNOME does not kill KDE. I was trying to turn this thread into a sane conversation.
              3. Does SteamOS fetch KDE packages from Testing?
              The steamos repository has a log

              http://repo.steampowered.com/steamos/log/

              where you can see the timeline of packages that they tried with steamos. they tested kde 4.8 from STABLE at some point but threw it out for the beta alongside all kind of media playing stuff. maybe they will put it back in at some point as an option like they also already make amd and intel drivers available as an option now - but not advertising/supporting them right now.

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              • Creator of GNOME secured GNOME failure just on its creation, GNOME is defect by design!
                It's very sad that man power is lost for developing GNOME instead of KDE , but with directions which GNOME takes, it is obvious that
                GNOME will die, just like RPM!

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                • Originally posted by Honton View Post
                  Yes. KDE was removed. Gnome was better.
                  Gnome will be replaced by Xfce when it becomes the default for the new Debian stable, just a matter of time.

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                  • Originally posted by Honton View Post
                    Gnome was started because Qt's evil license. Gnome's inception was a battle cry for freedom. KDE was just adware for a commercial tool kit.
                    Do you really believe that some "cry for freedom" can be called gnome?
                    It is seems to me that it looks more like "cry for dissipation"....
                    How KDE can be adware for toolkit when there isn't any other?

                    Shuttleworth understood that Gnome "sux" and so there is Unity

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                    • Originally posted by Honton View Post
                      No. He understood that having 5 community managers blog-bombing didn't make Gnome give into CLA, bzr or LP. Then he moved on to create a CLA stack targeting anything from cloud computing to TVs.
                      And then Debian moved to Xfce.
                      Two very large distros that used to default to Gnome that don't any more.

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