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  • #16
    You guys and your distro wars did it...
    i guess this where we say good bye Phoronix
    since i do not care about any other distro phoronix will not be news site for me anymore i guess wich makes me VERY sad becuase i used to check in at least 5 times a day here to see the news :C

    For the trolls: Be carefull what u wish for, if ubuntu would to fall it wont fall alone...
    people dont like change and they would probably be like me and just give up on linux and go back to windows.
    Go head and hate me for saying the truth that you ignore because u are in love with other distro.

    Thank you for the years of fun Phoronix, will miss you.

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    • #17
      I'd like to see more tests of LSB compliant distros, like openSUSE and Fedora. OpenSUSE provides newer binary kernel packages in OBS repo.

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      • #18
        @MrTheSoulz
        This isn't a distro-war, these are just answers to a question Michael has asked. Just to get some opinions from his readers. It's not a final decision...

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        • #19
          I would like to see Debian stable in the mix as a base point to compare newer distros against.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by kokoko3k View Post
            The question is wrong.
            I think you should benchmark vanilla software in their latest stable release.
            And no, i'm not talking about archlinux (which i use).
            If you benchmark haswell, then you should benchmark software compiled for it, with appropriate cflags.

            It is useless to came out with benchmarks like 64bit vs 32bit when 64bit builds are optimized for the whole cpu instruction set, while the 32bit one aren't. (i mean... it is unfair, probably features like sse3 and sse4 are left out, while supported, on 32bit builds, just because precompiled binaries).
            The questions are different, not wrong. Just because it is not the question you are most interested in does not make it a "wrong" question.

            The question isn't "what is the absolute fastest this software can be run". That might be an interesting question in some regards, but it is simply not the question Phoronix is interested in.

            The question is "how fast will this run for typical users". Since typical users don't recompile all of their software for absolute optimization, doing so will not give results typical users will see.

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            • #21
              Ubuntu latest stable version. Because it is the most popular distro (yes Mint, but that is the same for me)
              Arch because it is a minimalistic rolling release distro with newest software.

              Usually Ubuntu bencharks are quite good, even though many think it is bloated or something. Confirming it is even better!

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              • #22
                My two cents would be Debian for its conventional and reliable base. Installation can be automated by pre-seeding answers to the installer questions.

                After that, I would imagine openSUSE would be a good choice. It's not perfect, but it is reasonably reliable, generally more up-to-date than Debian, and there is a very large variety of packages available through OBS.

                I don't know the intricacies of benchmarking, but I would imagine that early technology adopters like Fedora and Arch Linux would pose more challenges than they would solve.

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                • #23
                  It should probably come down to which distro makes it easiest to get new software with minimal recompilation on your part while still starting from an established base. I know Ubuntu has PPAs and openSUSE has Open Build Service, so I think the choice really has to be one of those. Arch Linux has a lot of software but no established base, and Gentoo requires compiling a lot, and I don't think any other distro has something on a similar level to PPAs or OBS.

                  I would personally choose openSUSE because 1. I like it, 2. it is more desktop-agnostic than Ubuntu, 3. OBS supports ARM while PPA doesn't, 4. OBS supports things like automatic GIT (or other VCS) updates while PPA doesn't, 5. openSUSE has SUSE studio, which lets you easily roll custom livecds or USB images so you don't have to alter your system to test anything.
                  Last edited by TheBlackCat; 07-26-2013, 03:14 AM.

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                  • #24
                    Fedora or openSUSE.
                    More time pass more patches ubuntu will apply downstream and then more their stack will diverge from the tipical linux stack to an ubuntu-only staff that nobody cares about.
                    This is not omgubuntu.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Yoshi View Post
                      @MrTheSoulz
                      This isn't a distro-war, these are just answers to a question Michael has asked. Just to get some opinions from his readers. It's not a final decision...
                      i really hope he sees this will make alot ubuntu users lose instrest on phoronix.
                      and it kinda is a distro war, alot of people got upset about mir and dont want phoronix to use ubuntu anymore :P

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                      • #26
                        Fedora.

                        Fedora. I would personally much rather see Sabayon in there. But unfortunately it's not very well know and doesn't have a huge staff of volunteers or corporate backing.

                        Fedora on the other hand, is popular, have a corporate back like Ubuntu, and is bleeding edge enough to make it's evaluation a reflection of current linux development (as opposed to Debian for example).

                        Oh, and personally I only recently started using it in one laptop, while having a Gentoo server, two Debian and one Sabayon workstations around the house.

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                        • #27
                          Ubuntu and Kubuntu

                          Fedora is a mess. I've installed the latest version and it wasn't using my native language and I wasn't able to restart my computer, because the restart button didn't work. What a shame. Ubuntu is much more polished and user friendly, but Kubuntu is the best.

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                          • #28
                            Any mainstream DESKTOP distro will do

                            If the benchmarks are to be made with Desktop Linux in mind, then Ubuntu is out. The latest moves made by Canonical make it very clear they are now a Mobile OS company. That their custom phone OS can do some desktop tasks when docked to a bigger screen is nice, but that doesn't make it a desktop Linux distro.

                            My guess would be one of these three:

                            OpenSUSE
                            Debian
                            Fedora

                            They have more or less regular releases and they are still "real" desktop distro's.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
                              Fedora is a mess. I've installed the latest version and it wasn't using my native language and I wasn't able to restart my computer, because the restart button didn't work. What a shame. Ubuntu is much more polished and user friendly, but Kubuntu is the best.
                              Kubuntu is probably the single most buggiest KDE distro and is regularly frowned upon when giving advice on which KDE distro to use.
                              Nearly every KDE-related bug I've helped people diagnose was related to Kubuntu and not KDE.

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                              • #30
                                Fedora, OpenSUSE, Debian, Ubuntu, CentOS are the primary one I would like to see. But would also like one of Mandriva fork (Mageia or PCLinuxOS most likely) and Crunchbang, this last one simply because it an out of the box Openbox Debian, so could could same time in setting up has to have a lightweight distro, mostly for comparaison of DE impact on the benchmark result, has you will only have to deal with a windows manager, at least for the test where it could be relevant.


                                Not that I wouldn't like some Gentoo and Archlinux benchmark, but easy to understand how they would be troublesome, in the situation you are in, so not gonna ask for them.

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