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  • I got robbed at gunpoint today....

    And the dumbass only got 15 bucks and I got a real good picture of him on the security camera. Dealing with the police was just about as big a pain in the ass as dealing with the robber though. They made me feel as if I had been the one that had done something wrong. I felt like I was being interrogated. I seriously doubt this guy will ever have to answer for pointing a gun at me.

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    Originally posted by duby229 View Post
    And the dumbass only got 15 bucks and I got a real good picture of him on the security camera. Dealing with the police was just about as big a pain in the ass as dealing with the robber though. They made me feel as if I had been the one that had done something wrong. I felt like I was being interrogated. I seriously doubt this guy will ever have to answer for pointing a gun at me.
    It's their job to question the victim too so that they can get a proper picture of what actually happened. They are not PR trained, you know.

    Your first time making a police report?

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    • #3
      Let me guess, you live in the US? :-P

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      • #4
        Originally posted by RealNC View Post
        Let me guess, you live in the US? :-P
        Can you think of any other country that legalizes civilian gun ownership?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by inteIIivision
          Do you really think that banning gun ownership is going to stop this sort of thing?

          Look at Australia, their so proud of their so proud of their retarded draconian gun laws. But once a month in Sydney, New South Wales, there are always one or two drive by shoots once a month showing that their gun banning laws are useless.

          Also, there are many other countries that ban guns and still have much higher rates of homicide involving guns.
          Can we have a gun count of deaths in Aus vs US?

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          • #6
            Guns don't kill people*. Bullets kill people. So let guns stay legal and only ban the ammunition. Problem solved.

            * Unless you throw them pretty hard.

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            • #7
              I seriously doubt that this gun was legally purchased. I'm convinced it was black market. Of course I didnt ask the guy where he got his gun, but from the looks of him I doubt very much that he got it through legal means.

              Guns are commodities too. Just like any other black market commodity, if you want to kill the black market you need to deregulate extensively. If this guys only means of getting a gun was through the legal market, then I doubt very much that he would have had a gun to rob me with.

              Starting today I'm beginning the process of getting a handgun of my own. I'll also need a license to carry a concealed weapon. And I'll need legal permission from my employer to have it at work with me. There are training courses I'll be taking and certificates I'll be getting. If I do this I'll do it the right way. I want to make sure that I am as safe and responsible with my own gun as can possibly be.
              Last edited by duby229; 06-15-2013, 10:49 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by duby229 View Post
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                Starting today I'm beginning the process of getting a handgun of my own. I'll also need a license to carry a concealed weapon. And I'll need legal permission from my employer to have it at work with me. There are training courses I'll be taking and certificates I'll be getting. If I do this I'll do it the right way. I want to make sure that I am as safe and responsible with my own gun as can possibly be.
                Having dealt with firearms for a good portion of my life in the military words can't describe how good it feels to not to have to touch one anymore...

                although i applaud your decision to be all lawful about obtaining and possessing one.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by duby229 View Post
                  And the dumbass only got 15 bucks and I got a real good picture of him on the security camera. Dealing with the police was just about as big a pain in the ass as dealing with the robber though. They made me feel as if I had been the one that had done something wrong. I felt like I was being interrogated. I seriously doubt this guy will ever have to answer for pointing a gun at me.
                  I congratulate and happy that you managed to outcome breathing, mate!

                  The rest is pretty much irrelevant; the robber does not do this for fun, so its just a matter of time for him to be shot or put in jail. Killing him might have solved that, though then you will become no less enemy for police as todays guy, so its hardly better than what happened today.. Many criminals actually kill victims to prevent them reporting to police or slowing their discovery.

                  You know, in Russia one highly respected amoung locals ex-specops guy by accident killed an armed childraper. He heard cries and saw the asshole raping his 10 year old niece, girl later said that asshole told her he will kill her afterwards. The specops guy got 2 year sentence for saving his own niece.., even though the whole village where he lived was protesting against jailing the hero.

                  And on contrast to bubbling here, arms can be purchased legally fairly easy everywhere in the world and the goal is to arm the lawful civilists,.. criminals will always be armed, regardless;.. they will just have it much much harder against an armed victims. Though, when lawfulness and mindset of generic civilian population sinks below or equal to local criminals, that will just make everything harder instead.

                  So, I am proud to have you back; consider a weapon training though.
                  Last edited by brosis; 06-15-2013, 12:13 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by duby229 View Post
                    Starting today I'm beginning the process of getting a handgun of my own.
                    Wise decision. When someone points a gun at you, he's so much less likely to shoot you if you point one right back at him.

                    Smart move.

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                    • #11
                      OP: I feel for you but...

                      Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                      Wise decision. When someone points a gun at you, he's so much less likely to shoot you if you point one right back at him.

                      Smart move.
                      That's not necessarily true. By the time you pull out your gun, the miscreant may pull the trigger as a jerk action. I understand the anguish and fear the OP may have but getting a gun is not the solution. The best thing you can do if someone points a gun at you is to give them whatever they want because your life is number 1, the material you lose is replaceable. I urge you to seriously consider this sort of thing. Instead you may be better off through keeping yourself safe in other ways such as taking self defense classes, avoid being by yourself during strange hours, etc.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by belal1 View Post
                        That's not necessarily true. By the time you pull out your gun, the miscreant may pull the trigger as a jerk action. I understand the anguish and fear the OP may have but getting a gun is not the solution. The best thing you can do if someone points a gun at you is to give them whatever they want because your life is number 1, the material you lose is replaceable. I urge you to seriously consider this sort of thing. Instead you may be better off through keeping yourself safe in other ways such as taking self defense classes, avoid being by yourself during strange hours, etc.
                        Woosh... pretty sure RealNC was being sarcastic. The point is you may be the guy standing in the back of a convenience store one day... you might be the guy that has to disable or if you must kill the robber. Personally I wouldn't shoot him unless made a bad move.... but you gotta do what you gotta do in those situations. I don't currently own a gun but it is something people should think about.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by brosis View Post
                          You know, in Russia one highly respected amoung locals ex-specops guy by accident killed an armed childraper. He heard cries and saw the asshole raping his 10 year old niece, girl later said that asshole told her he will kill her afterwards. The specops guy got 2 year sentence for saving his own niece.., even though the whole village where he lived was protesting against jailing the hero.
                          If he was that highly trained, it's doubtful he killed the guy "accidentally".

                          There was a similar case here in the US, where some guy came upon somebody in the middle of raping his daughter, and he killed the guy. Admitted it to the police. I'm not sure whatever happened to that case, but there was obviously a fair amount of support for just letting him go free, and there were others arguing that you had to follow the rule of law - just beat the shit out of the guy and let the police take him away instead of killing him.

                          Edit: yeah, the grand jury refused to indict him, so no jail time.
                          Last edited by smitty3268; 06-15-2013, 03:28 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by belal1 View Post
                            That's not necessarily true. By the time you pull out your gun, the miscreant may pull the trigger as a jerk action. I understand the anguish and fear the OP may have but getting a gun is not the solution. The best thing you can do if someone points a gun at you is to give them whatever they want because your life is number 1, the material you lose is replaceable. I urge you to seriously consider this sort of thing. Instead you may be better off through keeping yourself safe in other ways such as taking self defense classes, avoid being by yourself during strange hours, etc.
                            It's well recorded and acknowledged even by people like Michael Moore that a gun being pulled on them or even the threat of a gun being pulled on them is enough to make the average criminal back down, and that individuals who respond defensively rather than giving in suffer less psychological trauma. The studies have also shown that areas which deregulate firearms have a sudden and steady drop in crime rate. Further on that point anyone who was intent on shooting you would be doing so regardless these are the exception however not the rule.

                            Furthermore by giving in you're giving positive reinforcement to criminal activity by rewarding him for robbing you by giving him your stuff. As a result the criminal is going to be more prone to repeating this crime, because it's an easy reward and power trip. By resisting you're dramatically increasing the risk to the criminal and making it much more difficult for him to get his reward (your material possessions) thus making him less prone to doing future crimes, and if everyone stopped giving in and was armed appropriately then only the most brazen criminals would be committing crimes because the risk/reward ratio is far too high.

                            Edit: 1st Degree murder is an exception to the second paragraph because while it makes it more difficult for them, they're going to try to kill the person regardless, and whether that's by poison, a knife, a gun, or something else like a car because they want this person dead and don't care as much about their own lives as long as they can achieve this goal.
                            Last edited by Luke_Wolf; 06-15-2013, 03:29 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by belal1 View Post
                              That's not necessarily true. By the time you pull out your gun, the miscreant may pull the trigger as a jerk action. I understand the anguish and fear the OP may have but getting a gun is not the solution. The best thing you can do if someone points a gun at you is to give them whatever they want because your life is number 1, the material you lose is replaceable. I urge you to seriously consider this sort of thing. Instead you may be better off through keeping yourself safe in other ways such as taking self defense classes, avoid being by yourself during strange hours, etc.
                              Exactly due to people like you robbers exist. Each sheep gets a wolf. You will die anyway and giving everything to the robber strengths his logic. All wise I knew actually gave robber the money out of empathy for his way of life, they felt sorry for him, nothing more. But behaving like you suggest is sure way to be robbed, raped and shot. Consider this sort of thing.

                              The rest of what you suggested with wrong - self defence classes - unless you learn to throw chopsticks as a weapon(even then, very very slick chance), no type of self defense can deactivate the armed enemy, even if you study and condition yourself more than 20 years and know iron shirt etc.

                              Avoiding may sound good, but instead is a form of ignorance and cowardice; instead a man should always be aware and ready to deal with any situation at any time.
                              Last edited by brosis; 06-15-2013, 03:31 PM.

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