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  • #16
    Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
    Can you reshare that link ten times more? It is all you got left.
    I would share thoughts by other full-time GTK3 developers, but there are none.

    Anyway, if you prefer GNOME, use it, no problem, just stop your psycho obsession with preventing people from running free software by destroying everything that you are not using. I promise that we won't tell you what you're missing, and that way you'll be happier in 3 years when you finally get the same functionality.

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    • #17
      Linus made Linux because unix was too expensive. Linus made GIT because others did not work well enough.

      Maybe this total lack of direction in the Linux desktop world is of benefit to us all, since i can see Linus in the near future saying fuck it, taking a couple months off from kernel works and cooking up a desktop environment to rule them all

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      • #18
        I really wish people would stop reading so much into it when Linus switches DE's. I switch DE's all the time.

        It doesn't mean that he thinks the DE he's switching to is better, or prefers it. Sometimes, we just want to see what other DE's are doing. And, since he cares about Linux(it's his baby), he probably just feels as though he owes it to try out the big ones every now and then. And, you'll notice that he'll never say anything particularly nice about any DE because that would be showing favouritism.

        So everyone, relax. It doesn't really mean... well, anything. We all like to switch to the other DE's every now and then to see what's going on in that world. It doesn't mean he hates the other DE's, it doesn't mean that he loves the new DE. He's a developer. They're genetically programmed to test-drive different kinds of software.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by StephanG View Post
          I really wish people would stop reading so much into it when Linus switches DE's. I switch DE's all the time.

          It doesn't mean that he thinks the DE he's switching to is better, or prefers it. Sometimes, we just want to see what other DE's are doing. And, since he cares about Linux(it's his baby), he probably just feels as though he owes it to try out the big ones every now and then. And, you'll notice that he'll never say anything particularly nice about any DE because that would be showing favouritism.

          So everyone, relax. It doesn't really mean... well, anything. We all like to switch to the other DE's every now and then to see what's going on in that world. It doesn't mean he hates the other DE's, it doesn't mean that he loves the new DE. He's a developer. They're genetically programmed to test-drive different kinds of software.
          people are getting excited about it because he's saying the same thing a lot of other people have already said and been ignored, hopefully this means some more configuration options for gnome 3 and i can start using it again. the top bar is a deal breaker for me, that's just how i work. i don't expect them to change it but i expect them to let me change it.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
            I would share thoughts by other full-time GTK3 developers, but there are none.
            Sorry but you have gone ignorant by the way Qt development works. Everybody knows there is a great barrier between Qts commercial business serving non-desktop customers on non-linux platforms and GTK. People at GTK dont see doing Gnome development as a waste of time. So there are a rather large bunch working "on both sides of the API; gnome and GTK. I suggest you go read the blogs of

            Clasen, principal gtk maintainer, doing alot of work on both side of the API.
            http://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/

            Taylor, former maintainer, now dev. Landed the frame sync stuff for 3.8
            http://blog.fishsoup.net/
            https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-.../msg00013.html
            https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-.../msg00055.html

            Larsson, gtk/glib dev, landed multi process broadway
            http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/

            Oh yeah and a bunch of intel guys are working to make "Wayland done right" on GTK/gnome.
            https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=694381
            Thats like 10 times more assuring than Kwins brain damaged SSD. And frankly Qt dont care about this.

            So yeah you are right. GTK doesnt sport many GTK-only devs, but they have something better; Devs who actually care about the free desktop as the primary customer.

            So next time you post stuff about gnome be sure to include these links. Unless of course that you just try to get as biased as possible.
            Last edited by funkSTAR; 03-04-2013, 03:46 AM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
              Can you reshare that link ten times more? It is all you got left. Linus couldnt stand KDE because it is shit. And Otte? Also on gnome. KDE is dead. Hah.
              No, he left gnome, because it was shit. He didn't say same things about KDE that he said about Gnome. KDE is in a very good shape and it's very healthy. Even if Gnome has improved you never know when some idiot will break something once again (like the idiot who broke Nautilus). Furthermore, Ubuntu's Unity is the new Gnome and this one is very usable and newbie friendly. Some of my friends have to use Ubuntu in their jobs, but they didn't even know what Ubuntu is. What's so great about it? They learnt it instantly.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
                No, he left gnome, because it was shit. He didn't say same things about KDE that he said about Gnome. KDE is in a very good shape and it's very healthy.
                LoL. He didnt leave gnome or gtk. His last commit at gtk is like three days old.
                http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/com...e805a1560890f1

                Now STFU.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
                  LoL. He didnt leave gnome or gtk. His last commit at gtk is like three days old.
                  http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/com...e805a1560890f1

                  Now STFU.
                  That's not Linus Torvalds.

                  Linus Torvalds uses Qt where it matters (the Linux build system, for example )

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
                    Sorry but you have gone ignorant by the way Qt development works. Everybody knows there is a great barrier between Qts commercial business serving non-desktop customers on non-linux platforms and GTK. People at GTK dont see doing Gnome development as a waste of time. So there are a rather large bunch working "on both sides of the API; gnome and GTK. I suggest you go read the blogs of
                    Are you talking about Qt or GTK here? You're all over the place and impossible to understand.

                    GTK has one full-time developer and some of the GNOME guys are posting patches too. What exactly is your point? KDE has always been the community desktop, not controlled by any commercial entity. GNOME is developed by a small core of developers, most of them working for RedHat. In fact, GNOME has always been the desktop of big corporations and ambitious startups: Novell, SUN Microsystems, RedHat, Eazel, Helix Code, Ximian, Xamarin, etc.

                    Pick whatever you prefer, just stop spreading FUD

                    Now I expect proof that Qt is developed by aliens in North Korea....

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
                      That's not Linus Torvalds.

                      Linus Torvalds uses Qt where it matters (the Linux build system, for example )
                      And GTK where it matters. Like subsurface a real deal desktop app.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
                        GTK has one full-time developer and some of the GNOME guys are posting patches too. What exactly is your point?
                        Excuse me but you are not able to understand the the basics about the GTK-gnome relationship. Since the GTK-people actually do care about the linux desktop the do BOTH gnome and GTK. WORKING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE API.

                        I suggest you go look at who did the lions share of release management for GTK.
                        http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/refs/tags

                        Yeah thats right; Clasen. A dude you just called "gnome guy". Sorry but he is not just a "gnome guy", he is all over the place ON BOTH SIDES OF THE API. Fully competent and productive at BOTH SIDES(8+ years). Get it? And oh yeah look and see if you can find other familiar names too. I suggested you read the blogs of Larsson and Taylor. They WORK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE API too. Having guys doing this for years and years; You build talent mass. KDEs biggest problem is loosing this kind of talent; Noone at Qt cares for KDE anymore.
                        Last edited by funkSTAR; 03-04-2013, 11:36 AM.

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                        • #27
                          What? Linus doesn't use Unity?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
                            Yeah he is not satisfied -yet. Still he prefers GNOME. Which means the alternatives are more SHITTY. LOL!!! So a true story of life: If you are a cool hacker you use GNOME. Because GNOME is the most extendable desktop outthere. PERIOD!!!! Only scriptkiddies, retards and mums use badly done Windows replicas.

                            Be cool, be GNOME!
                            Linus also uses uemacs as his text editor, may I suggest that you switch to it to be cool and not look like the retarded scripptkiddie mum you talk about?
                            By the way, I am neither using a retarded phone UI nor a Windows style UI, so you can save yourself some time with the inevitably following "You are to stupid to learn the new things!!!111!!! Welcome to 2013!!!!1111!!!111".

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by StephanG View Post
                              I really wish people would stop reading so much into it when Linus switches DE's. I switch DE's all the time.

                              It doesn't mean that he thinks the DE he's switching to is better, or prefers it. Sometimes, we just want to see what other DE's are doing. And, since he cares about Linux(it's his baby), he probably just feels as though he owes it to try out the big ones every now and then. And, you'll notice that he'll never say anything particularly nice about any DE because that would be showing favouritism.

                              So everyone, relax. It doesn't really mean... well, anything. We all like to switch to the other DE's every now and then to see what's going on in that world. It doesn't mean he hates the other DE's, it doesn't mean that he loves the new DE. He's a developer. They're genetically programmed to test-drive different kinds of software.
                              STFO U MORON



                              The Caliph said Gnome.
                              Last edited by moilami; 03-05-2013, 11:16 AM.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Vim_User View Post
                                Linus also uses uemacs as his text editor, may I suggest that you switch to it to be cool and not look like the retarded scripptkiddie mum you talk about?
                                By the way, I am neither using a retarded phone UI nor a Windows style UI, so you can save yourself some time with the inevitably following "You are to stupid to learn the new things!!!111!!! Welcome to 2013!!!!1111!!!111".
                                You fail to understand the logic: When Linus decides to try a new DE there will be blood. The left out DE is DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMed. At least if it is gnome. And yeah Canonical left gnome-shell because it was DOOOOOOOOOOMed and not because Canonical is making a billion excuses to start new stuff where they can dictate and use CLA.

                                Some might call it getting biased, going hyperbole or extrapolate, other just call it was it is: Stupid trash talk on forums for the lesser. But who cares anyway? Linus uses gnome and now all the cool kids does as well.

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