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  • #61
    Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View Post
    They said there were no games, which is a myth. I really do not give a rats ass about whether some magazine considers a title important or not, the fact of the matter is there are plenty of game titles released for Linux, many of them quite good. You can not escape this fact by simply changing your definitions.
    As a general rule, when people say " there are no games for linux " they are talking about the AAA mainstream titles and not the 15th incarnation of a id tech quake engine fps or a puzzle game.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by _artem_ View Post
      that's really funny to hear people, from countries which had "black" slaves in the past, calling me racist... I was born in russia. russia neved had "BLACK" SLAVES. to be true I first saw a "black" man as I went to germany in the age of 13 until that moment I saw "black" skinned people only in US films on the TV
      Well, as a country Canada never had black slaves either. The British of course did, but Canada technically did not. Now we were of course based on the notion of disfranchising an entire group of people and taking their land, but then again, the Russians have done that to.

      Does not change the fact that your words were troublesome, even if you *may* have legitimately had no intent behind it.
      Last edited by Hamish Wilson; 10-29-2012, 06:33 PM.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by deanjo View Post
        As a general rule, when people say " there are no games for linux " they are talking about the AAA mainstream titles and not the 15th incarnation of a id tech quake engine fps or a puzzle game.
        Again, you are hiding behind changing definitions and generalizations. If you said that there are no games for Linux that you like, well, that would be your opinion, but to say that there are no games for Linux is a flat-out lie. Plus there are plenty of distinct titles that do not fit into your rather limited categories, but it is not my job to list out information that is already easy to find and readily available.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View Post
          Does not change the fact that your words were troublesome, even if you legitimately had no intent behind it.
          The words are not troublesome, your interpretation of what they meant was. Some times the words are meant to be taken litterally.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View Post
            Again, you are hiding behind changing definitions and generalizations. If you said that there are no games for Linux that you like, well, that would be your opinion, but to say that there are no games for Linux is a flat-out lie. Plus there are plenty of distinct titles that do not fit into your rather limited categories, but it is not my job to list out information that is already easy to find and readily available.
            An avid gamer walks up to you and asks " I really want to play a lot of kick ass games on the PC. What OS do I get to do so?" what would your reply be?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by deanjo View Post
              An avid gamer walks up to you and asks " I really want to play a lot of kick ass games on the PC. What OS do I get to do so?" what would your reply be?
              PS3 hands down.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by crazycheese View Post
                PS3 hands down.
                You didn't listen to the question then.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                  The words are not troublesome, your interpretation of what they meant was. Some times the words are meant to be taken litterally.
                  99% of modern "AAA" titles are "ZZZ" in reality, being compensated by DLC, patches after 3 years and mods, and still lacking.
                  The idea is if Linux has games with good gameplay. Yes, it has.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by crazycheese View Post
                    99% of modern "AAA" titles are "ZZZ" in reality, being compensated by DLC, patches after 3 years and mods, and still lacking.
                    The idea is if Linux has games with good gameplay. Yes, it has.
                    My old nokia feature phone has a couple games on it but that does not really make it a gaming console.

                    Also one could argue that 99.9% of linux titles are "ZZZ" in reality as well.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                      You didn't listen to the question then.
                      You are serious that opensource platform has enough power to compete with 99% preinstalled hardware or software locked garbage pile named "Windows"?

                      Because "AAA" does not mean any "serious" or "interesting" or "good" game, it merely means "huge" game studio behind. And huge game studios tend to maximize profit, hence PS3. As locked down as it gets, plenty of "AAA" and crappy company behind as a "bonus".

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                      • #71
                        Maybe you did not notice that there are lots of games out there that work only on consoles. PC gaming is already a smaller part of the gaming scene. Sure you can use high power gfx cards but most games beside a few special ones which use all effects possible are console conversations which run with 3-5y old hardware (geforce 8 series is enough and was introduced 2006/7) as well - even the latest ones like Rage - so do the steam engine games. So best choice: get a console, some games types like beat em ups are very rare on pcs.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                          An avid gamer walks up to you and asks " I really want to play a lot of kick ass games on the PC. What OS do I get to do so?" what would your reply be?
                          Does not really matter - my point is not that Linux is the best gaming platform, but whether or not games are available for it. Again, stop changing the focus of the original statement.

                          Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                          My old nokia feature phone has a couple games on it but that does not really make it a gaming console.
                          No, but it does make it a gaming platform.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Kano View Post
                            Maybe you did not notice that there are lots of games out there that work only on consoles. PC gaming is already a smaller part of the gaming scene. Sure you can use high power gfx cards but most games beside a few special ones which use all effects possible are console conversations which run with 3-5y old hardware (geforce 8 series is enough and was introduced 2006/7) as well - even the latest ones like Rage - so do the steam engine games. So best choice: get a console, some games types like beat em ups are very rare on pcs.
                            That all is dependent on the game genre Kano. FPS's suck on a console when compared to a PC, RPG's are joke as a general rule on consoles and consoles can't do any type of simulation other then driving games worthwhile either.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Kano View Post
                              So best choice: get a console, some games types like beat em ups are very rare on pcs.
                              Well, those games are innately better with console controllers anyway, and that is the reason. Yes, you can hook up Gamepads to a PC, but that is not the focus of your average PC gamer.

                              That is why Lugaru/Overgrowth are so interesting, as those titles are one of the few fighting games optimized for PC controls.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                                That all is dependent on the game genre Kano. FPS's suck on a console when compared to a PC, RPG's are joke as a general rule on consoles and consoles can't do any type of simulation other then driving games worthwhile either.
                                Well, at least we agree on something.

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