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    Linux has always been a fight with windmills for me. Always something, always a shit comes in the way. Always. Why there cannot anything be normal. Jesus I am just a normal person. Just want to turn the computer and forget the geek stuff. Plug and Play.

    Here's what I've encountered. And apparently there has been no no solution and nobody in a billion dollar companies want to make a small change. One clever person with $ 75k p.a. would be sufficient. But noooo. They have to sweam in honey and tell people to GFT.

    and the winners are:

    *Intel= ugly video tearing, some window tearing, crushing under vaapi, freezing menus, system crashes under file dragging

    *AMD= Catalysts/fglrx = choppy video playback, disgusting video tearing, ugly window tearing, complete instability leading to crashes

    *Nvida= ugly video tearing, tearing windows, videos freezing with NVDPAU, no crashes.Linux has no use for end user whatsoever.

    And yet NO SYNC TO VBLANK for any graphics. SHAME and DISGUST!

    The major question is WHEEEEEEEEEEN is the fix coming? Who of any Linux coders and contributors to Xorg or kernel called them? Does anyone including Linus watches videos under Linux? Apparently not. Apple OS and Android do not have these issues, so who gives a fuck? Right? The most important is that the shitty spywarey mess from google named Android is included in the kernel, because everyone on their laptops and desktops need that shit, I believe. The need of Torvalds to work for Google is more important. Wee don't give a fuck about Google. We useers will not work for Google or intend to work. We are just a bunch of morons who want to watch videos on their computers. But who gives a fuck. GFY yousers.


    Honorable mention:
    Kernel Developers:
    9months, Ralink 5390sta pci WiFi has been open sourced and released under GPL, but yet we still have to deal with bad 2800pci for donkeys versions of kernel releases. WTF? Under Windows the latest drivers are like Lamborghini with a tank torque. 2800pci? Shove the up yours.?

  • #2
    Not getting value for your money?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by JohnXfce View Post
      Honorable mention:
      Kernel Developers:
      9months, Ralink 5390sta pci WiFi has been open sourced and released under GPL, but yet we still have to deal with bad 2800pci for donkeys versions of kernel releases. WTF? Under Windows the latest drivers are like Lamborghini with a tank torque. 2800pci? Shove the up yours.?
      You're only mentioning a bad example here, there's lots of wifi cards that work right at launch time like Intel/Atheros.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by JohnXfce View Post
        *AMD= Catalysts/fglrx = choppy video playback, disgusting video tearing, ugly window tearing, complete instability leading to crashes
        Looks like you never try FOSS driver or TearFreeDesktop in proprietary driver.

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        • #5
          I've never had any problems watching videos here on nvidia hardware. That video playing is broken on all hardware is just not true. Probably large resolution video is problematic but playing a DVD or a Youtube video, also fullscreen, just works here.

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          • #6
            The most important is that the shitty spywarey mess from google named Android is included in the kernel, because everyone on their laptops and desktops need that shit, I believe.
            At least it's better than spyware from ms and apple and nobody needs it on desktop or laptops. What's more important spyware didn't get into the kernel and you can always use Cyanogen. Open Source drivers and nVidia are very good on Linux. I don't speak for Catalyst, because I found it problematic.

            The major question is WHEEEEEEEEEEN is the fix coming? Who of any Linux coders and contributors to Xorg or kernel called them? Does anyone including Linus watches videos under Linux? Apparently not. Apple OS and Android do not have these issues, so who gives a fuck?
            That's whole bunch of bullshit. Ignoring Intel, you were complaining about blobs and you mentioned kernel and Xorg which have nothing to do with your problems. Blame AMD ,nVidia and Intel.

            Honorable mention:
            Kernel Developers:
            9months, Ralink 5390sta pci WiFi has been open sourced and released under GPL, but yet we still have to deal with bad 2800pci for donkeys versions of kernel releases. WTF? Under Windows the latest drivers are like Lamborghini with a tank torque. 2800pci? Shove the up yours.?
            Blame Ralink? Or better GFY.
            Last edited by kraftman; 05-11-2012, 10:06 AM.

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            • #7
              Complaining here is fine, but copy-pasting the same post to 5 different threads is a bit overboard, wouldn't you say?

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              • #8
                Language, please.

                So you got a free pony and now you are standing in the town square screaming "I'm so angry, my free pony has no saddle!". Take a look in the mirror.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JohnXfce View Post
                  *Nvida= ugly video tearing, tearing windows, videos freezing with NVDPAU, no crashes.Linux has no use for end user whatsoever.
                  260 GTX with 1.7 GiB of ram.
                  =Noveau, Nvidia=
                  Video tearing: No, No
                  Tearing windows: No, No
                  Videos Freezing: (no VDPAU), No
                  No crashes: 0, 0

                  Radeon 4770 with 0,5 GiB of ram, used 1 year ago
                  =Radeon=
                  Video tearing: No
                  Tearing windows: No
                  Videos Freezing: No
                  No crashes: 0

                  Try better next time.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by AlbertP View Post
                    I've never had any problems watching videos here on nvidia hardware. That video playing is broken on all hardware is just not true. Probably large resolution video is problematic but playing a DVD or a Youtube video, also fullscreen, just works here.
                    1920x1080 H264 AVC fullscreen via MPlayer: no problems here

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by crazycheese View Post
                      Radeon 4770 with 0,5 GiB of ram, used 1 year ago
                      =Radeon=
                      Video tearing: No
                      Tearing windows: No
                      Videos Freezing: No
                      No crashes: 0

                      Try better next time.
                      right. but he write about the catalyst.
                      I dropped the catalyst because of bad gaming performance (hon) bad mouse/keyboard input latency in the visual feedback and the tear free desktop feature do have bugs.

                      he make a big mistake he try to use the catalyst LOL

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                        right. but he write about the catalyst.
                        I dropped the catalyst because of bad gaming performance (hon) bad mouse/keyboard input latency in the visual feedback and the tear free desktop feature do have bugs.

                        he make a big mistake he try to use the catalyst LOL
                        True, but original Catalyst 8.5 has hanged my system when I switched terminals.
                        It was around 2009, I have used nv 6800GT before (flawless under linux), then Bridgeman told Amd is ok on linux. So, bought 4670 - opensource driver 2D only, fglrx - this stuff above.
                        RMAed it instantly and bought 9800GT. You know the rest

                        The difference here though, I never claimed Linux sucks, but I claimed ATI sucks (at those time) and it was true.

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                        • #13
                          Disable Composite, it's alpha quality shitware, and disable sync to vblank and set the refresh rate in the nvidia control panel to your actual refresh rate of your screen hardware. I don't know why, but nvidia's acceleration shit breaks video refresh for some reason. As soon as I did those things I could sync video to my samsung 55" tv perfectly. Dead smooth for everything including 3d videos.

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                          • #14
                            Do yourself a favor and install windows, linux graphic and wifi stacks are depressing.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by soupbowl View Post
                              Do yourself a favor and install windows, linux graphic and wifi stacks are depressing.
                              Really? You prefer broken NTFS file system semantics? You prefer not being able to put a Makefile and a makefile in the same directory? You prefer Windows update when it hangs forever and leaves your machine unbootable? You prefer filesystem security semantics that can best be described as inscrutable?

                              Or maybe you could rub some brain cells together and realize that you have to purchase your hardware to accomodate your software needs and not vice versa. If you are actually serious about having a working linux machine then you really can put one together.

                              Hey anyone can get on here and whine about how operating system X doesn't work with peripheral Y but it rings hollow when there are plenty of compatibility information resources out there and you are basically just admitting that you dropped the ball when it came to choosing your hardware.

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