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  • #16


    Japan soldiers self defence in iraq ? yes sure i know it iraq attack japan because of this they do self defence. LOL... yes sooo stupid.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
      There is no "only-defence" soldier there are only Guilty-Soldiers

      and the prove is easy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident

      if a soldier think its defence then its attack 100% pure attack!

      Soldiers are dump they only serve there order and if there order is "Attack" then they attack and if not then the order is "Defence" and the Defence is a lie.

      Defence is always a Lie!
      Qar,

      I would recommend that you post in German. Your post (like many of your previous posts) makes absolutely no sense. We would probably get a better understanding of what you are attempting to say via google-translate.

      Alternatively, you could refrain from posting in sensitive topics until you are capable of effectively communicating in english.

      On a humorous note, and to show that you are not alone:

      I lived in Vienna Austria for a year. I took a weekend trip to Berlin to see the sites and enjoy the ambiance. When in Berlin, I attempted to purchase a "Yellow" pack of American-Spirit cigarettes, a magazine, some gum, and asked the cashier for a bag to carry them in. I don't know whether I mis-pronounced gelben as gelden, or whether my wiener-ish dialect of your language was confusing to a cashier that appeared to have immigrated from a country of slovic origin. It may be that the Viennese use a different word for "bag" than people in Berlin do. Long story short, the cashier thought that I was trying to rob the place.

      What I attempted to say: I would like a red pack of gum and a yellow pack of american spirit. Please put it in a bag.
      What he heard: I have red package gun. Give me american spirit cigarette and money. Put it in my purse.

      F

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      • #18
        Originally posted by russofris View Post
        Qar,

        I would recommend that you post in German. Your post (like many of your previous posts) makes absolutely no sense. We would probably get a better understanding of what you are attempting to say via google-translate.

        Alternatively, you could refrain from posting in sensitive topics until you are capable of effectively communicating in english.

        On a humorous note, and to show that you are not alone:

        I lived in Vienna Austria for a year. I took a weekend trip to Berlin to see the sites and enjoy the ambiance. When in Berlin, I attempted to purchase a "Yellow" pack of American-Spirit cigarettes, a magazine, some gum, and asked the cashier for a bag to carry them in. I don't know whether I mis-pronounced gelben as gelden, or whether my wiener-ish dialect of your language was confusing to a cashier that appeared to have immigrated from a country of slovic origin. It may be that the Viennese use a different word for "bag" than people in Berlin do. Long story short, the cashier thought that I was trying to rob the place.

        What I attempted to say: I would like a red pack of gum and a yellow pack of american spirit. Please put it in a bag.
        What he heard: I have red package gun. Give me american spirit cigarette and money. Put it in my purse.

        F
        really? sounds funny. but i don't think this is the problem with my posts .

        a lot of people really think no human can make points like my points.

        they think i write sarcasm in points there is no sarcasm in my word and they think its wrong but i''m sure its not wrong.

        example: Arabian people (osama bin ladin) attacks the USA and then the USA attacks Arabia in self defence? no!... they attack Afghanistan and CLAIM its self defence.

        in 9/11 most of the "terrorist" are made in "Saudi Arabia" and not Afganistan.

        but you know saudi arabia is big friend and the USA will never a friend LOL!

        if a soldier fights in a illusion of self defence then the soldier is just naive and stupid.

        ALL wars start with a False flack/staged attack operation and ALL soldiers always think they fight in Self defence.

        this means soldiers are always Guilty for there stupid nativity.

        another example is "Attack_on_Pearl_Harbor" the US Officials want the hard LOSE in the first contact and to make sure they lose hart they drop the Radar warning.

        on the Radar many enemys but... hey don't hurry the Radar is MAD you know LOL!

        wikipedia "As the first wave approached Oahu, a U.S. Army SCR-270 radar at Opana Point near the island's northern tip (a post not yet operational, having been in training mode for months) detected it and called in a warning."

        and the warning was lost because the Official already know they attack and they don't want warn there trops to make sure they lose harder !

        because only if they lose hard the US citizen are angry and start a real hard war.


        in fact ALL FAKE! the US Officials know the attack 3-4 days in the future because a allied ship send warning to the USA and espionage know it already and no warning comes from officials to soldiers.

        100% fake!

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        • #19
          http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3c6_1332299048

          this happens if US-soldiers play with weapons like children.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
            you make a mistake a murderer is not a homicide/manslaughter

            a murderer do have a reason to kill. a homicide do not have a reason to kill.

            you make 2 mistakes you think a personal reason is no reason
            I wasn't talking about US soldiers, but in general. I woudln't call a murderer someone who killed an opponent in self defence.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by kraftman View Post
              I wasn't talking about US soldiers, but in general. I woudln't call a murderer someone who killed an opponent in self defence.
              no US soldier? only General? i think you are wrong because: the soldier do not have a choice if he gets the order to fight he fights.

              and if he gets the order to attack without self defence anyway then he do it or he die by friendly fire.

              this means there is no self defence in the #Army-.

              only a free man without pressure to attack can do self defence in a freedom of chose.

              a soldier do not have freedom of chose in a war.

              he chose to not have a chose. and of he chose not to be a murderer then he never go into the Army

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                really? sounds funny. but i don't think this is the problem with my posts .

                a lot of people really think no human can make points like my points.
                No, seriously, it's you. You're a troll. You make bad points, base statements on false dichotomy, make linguistic errors that cause ambiguity (intentionally?).

                Whenever I hit the forums for spirited conversation, I always start to suspect that Michael is somehow supporting your presence here to drive up ad revenue. I cannot imagine why he would allow you to stay, there's simply no reason for it.

                I personally think it is adorable that you turned a thread about a murderous US soldier and his 16 victims into your own personal litterbox of misinformation and hate-mongering. I take comfort in knowing that some day, somewhere, the burden that you have constructed will return to affect you.

                Bravo! Ya got me!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by russofris View Post
                  No, seriously, it's you. You're a troll. You make bad points, base statements on false dichotomy, make linguistic errors that cause ambiguity (intentionally?).
                  Whenever I hit the forums for spirited conversation, I always start to suspect that Michael is somehow supporting your presence here to drive up ad revenue. I cannot imagine why he would allow you to stay, there's simply no reason for it.
                  I personally think it is adorable that you turned a thread about a murderous US soldier and his 16 victims into your own personal litterbox of misinformation and hate-mongering. I take comfort in knowing that some day, somewhere, the burden that you have constructed will return to affect you.
                  Bravo! Ya got me!
                  LOL and only because you don't like my message.

                  Soldier = murderer

                  a Soldier chose to not chose the right way means not to fight or only fight for defence a soldier do not have the RIGHT to chose on a Political LEVEL this means he chose to be stupid.
                  a soldiers chose to NOT use there brain! Soldier=turning off his brain for money
                  do you think soldiers are think-tanks or Politicians? LOL never!
                  if think-tanks or politicians chose to make a war the soldiers act the soldier and kill and murder.
                  there is ZERO brain in a soldier!
                  the soldier is not allowed to think and chose he is only a "TOOL" like a "gun"
                  thinking people use "TOOLS" use means exploit in a unfair way!!

                  "(intentionally?)"

                  LOL sure. do you really think i don't know how to use words?

                  the use of the words means "noun" is exact the same in english and german.

                  "I always start to suspect that Michael is somehow supporting your presence here to drive up ad revenue. I cannot imagine why he would allow you to stay, there's simply no reason for it."

                  i don't know just ask him.

                  "litterbox of misinformation "

                  LOL.... turn on your TV and mainstream media then you get the misinformation non-stop.

                  you call it misinformation i call it different viewpoint. but sure Nazis prefer to turn off different viewpoints.

                  "I take comfort in knowing that some day, somewhere, the burden that you have constructed will return to affect you."

                  well the CIA call this effect blowback effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowbac...ntelligence%29

                  the CIA knows this effect very well. the CIA gets all the shit back what they do in the past!

                  MK-ULTRA http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKULTRA for example or GLADIO http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladio

                  or this: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Artischocke

                  or the cause of 9/11 : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

                  or this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskege...lis_experiment

                  the USA is so full of shit there guiltyness is a shame for the humanity!

                  yes sure they know the blowback effect and i know the blowback effect.

                  sure one day a CIA agent will kill me but i will defend myself with my keyboard!! LOL!!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/auslan...820622,00.html

                    Yes the US people really go crazy in Afghanistan.

                    and in 3 month they will also start a war against Syria and Iran and then us soldiers run amok there to.
                    This was awful. The New Yorker had an article about this a few days ago. This soldier had served several tours already and didn't want to go back. He has kids of his own (some the same age as the kids he killed). The fact that the military didn't recognize his problems (I'm guessing he became increasingly withdrawn prior to his break) is the big problem here. Snapping in the middle of combat is one thing, doing what he did is something else and, IMO, something that should'be been prevented.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by russofris View Post
                      No, seriously, it's you. You're a troll. You make bad points, base statements on false dichotomy, make linguistic errors that cause ambiguity (intentionally?).

                      Whenever I hit the forums for spirited conversation, I always start to suspect that Michael is somehow supporting your presence here to drive up ad revenue. I cannot imagine why he would allow you to stay, there's simply no reason for it.

                      I personally think it is adorable that you turned a thread about a murderous US soldier and his 16 victims into your own personal litterbox of misinformation and hate-mongering. I take comfort in knowing that some day, somewhere, the burden that you have constructed will return to affect you.

                      Bravo! Ya got me!
                      I agree with you about Larabel and Q. I came to the same conclusions independently, since I was considering emailing Michael about blocking these click bait, offtopic threads Q has been creating over the last few months. I then came to the conclusion that Michael just doesn't care. Clicks do drive revenue, and the more click-bait-y the better.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by liam View Post
                        This was awful. The New Yorker had an article about this a few days ago. This soldier had served several tours already and didn't want to go back. He has kids of his own (some the same age as the kids he killed). The fact that the military didn't recognize his problems (I'm guessing he became increasingly withdrawn prior to his break) is the big problem here. Snapping in the middle of combat is one thing, doing what he did is something else and, IMO, something that should'be been prevented.
                        "awful" right... war the "War" turn people into "Sick Monsters"

                        in my point of view he is "innocent" in America in his home land this man would never have come to kill children.

                        because of this i support Ron-Paul.. end the war now_! just go home!

                        the US people don't understand 1 important point : the FED money system is sick and the Fosil Oil based Economy is also sick because of this they start war after war to secure there needs of energy and control.

                        they need a money reform (not communism) bitcoin is a good example for a good money system.
                        and they need re change there energy sources to green energy sources.
                        Last edited by Qaridarium; 03-22-2012, 06:01 PM.

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                        • #27
                          A lot of these discussions can be closed by looking at the issue using philosophy.

                          The US violates the non-aggression principle. How? It invades a country without their permission and kill people. This is not news, the US government is immoral. To further widen your field of view, all forms of statism are corrupt, because the government uses force to get what it wants.

                          Here comes the contradiction - if taking things by force is immoral, then why does the government threaten you at gunpoint for you to pay your taxes (you essentially are threatened by the police and then thrown in jail if you resist paying for something you don't believe in) after it indoctrinates your children in public school that a lot of obvious things are bad and evil, like violence and stealing?

                          The most successful thieves convince everyone else that stealing is wrong.

                          Anyway, going back to my original point - there's nothing interesting to see here. Yes, the US has soldiers it deployed going crazy killing people. What did you expect when you ship soldiers over sea, each with different levels of child trauma, that affect their psychology and their impulse to change things by force, instead of think through problems.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by damentz View Post
                            A lot of these discussions can be closed by looking at the issue using philosophy.

                            The US violates the non-aggression principle. How? It invades a country without their permission and kill people. This is not news, the US government is immoral. To further widen your field of view, all forms of statism are corrupt, because the government uses force to get what it wants.

                            Here comes the contradiction - if taking things by force is immoral, then why does the government threaten you at gunpoint for you to pay your taxes (you essentially are threatened by the police and then thrown in jail if you resist paying for something you don't believe in) after it indoctrinates your children in public school that a lot of obvious things are bad and evil, like violence and stealing?

                            The most successful thieves convince everyone else that stealing is wrong.

                            Anyway, going back to my original point - there's nothing interesting to see here. Yes, the US has soldiers it deployed going crazy killing people. What did you expect when you ship soldiers over sea, each with different levels of child trauma, that affect their psychology and their impulse to change things by force, instead of think through problems.
                            true and sad... and this will never stop-...... a pure nightmare.

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                            • #29
                              The EU is no better. Both are immoral. I thought Europeans wouldn't be as stupid and brainwashed as Americans but I guess that is an incorrect assumption. It's a global problem because of the idea of 'Globalism' that you need these countries to have such bloated bureaucracies that decide on their own which countries they'll target and which agenda is preferable.

                              Incidents like these are considered to be 'sacrifices' that typically happen but are of little consequence as long as the long-term goals go forward.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Panix View Post
                                The EU is no better. Both are immoral. I thought Europeans wouldn't be as stupid and brainwashed as Americans but I guess that is an incorrect assumption. It's a global problem because of the idea of 'Globalism' that you need these countries to have such bloated bureaucracies that decide on their own which countries they'll target and which agenda is preferable.

                                Incidents like these are considered to be 'sacrifices' that typically happen but are of little consequence as long as the long-term goals go forward.
                                LOL you found your own mistake its "Global"

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