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  • #31
    Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
    http://www.heise.de/tp/blogs/3/150859

    A high IQ man do have a 50% higher probability to be a THC, Cocaine ,LSD, Amphetamine and MDMA consumer.
    And a high IQ woman do have a much higher probability than the mans to be a drug consumer.

    be smart consume drugs

    now we know Silkroad drug shop is very important for smart humans.
    Correlation does not equal causation.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Shining Arcanine View Post
      Correlation does not equal causation.
      you are right but you always can try it.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
        i never played Fallout.
        But the reality shows different than your "fictional drug mentats"
        Then you're not as half as smart as the Fallout addicts. :>
        Last edited by kraftman; 11-24-2011, 03:42 PM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by kraftman View Post
          Then you're not as half as smart as the Fallout addicts. :>
          i don't know?? maybe? ...

          computer games also show in studies that pc gamers are smart.

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          • #35
            I made one really really interesting test with LSD (It was unexpected to):

            Heres the detail :
            I own a old PS2 v7 (I chipped it myself with a dms4) and I have a game called "GEOTRON" installed on his hard drive. Here a youtube like to see what kind of game is it : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6nwEEmlZv8 (It'S the only video I found)

            I used to play from time to time, In baseline or with some THC. THC did not change anything really.

            Baseline or THC :
            High score 235,670.
            Normal score : Between 100,000 and 150,000.
            Note that I played maybe hundred of times.

            I did not play that game for six months... And got to a friend and took small amount of LCD (It was my first and only time). We got some fun and I got home during the night, Got a good night/morning of sleep. In the afternoon, I was bored and I invited a friend of mine for normal geeking week end. My friend asked me some question about my new PS2 mods show I showed some of the new stuff I put on it and I decided to show the GEOTRON game and make a "small" game for demonstration, not expecting more than 100,000 score as I did not play for six months.

            Day after LCD
            Score : 1,005,550

            Yeah, I written the number correctly, I was playing.. gaining new live, not losing any of them, gaining new bombs (to clear screen) but not using -any- of them... I was thinking... "that's weird... something must be wrong.. maybe a PS2 glitch".. Still playing... The live line and bombs line was overlapping due to saturation.. Until... The score passed from 999,999 to 000,000.. So I decided to stop moving and firing.. and let me lose all my lives... The score saved correctly with the leading "1" before.

            So yeah, LCD do something... Since that I never got higher than my old high score (235,650) I'm currently thinking about retrying the experience. But I will need to install a tv tunner in the computer and record the epic game.

            High score 235,670.
            Normal score : Between 100,000 and 150,000.
            Day after LCD score : 1,005,550

            PS : Usually, after score 200,000, It's pratically impossible to move... The screen is so saturated...

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            • #36
              From my personal view after my experience with drugs, I support the case about drugs make you smarter, I used very heavy amounts of cannabis for a year, and I can confess that I became more intelligent, in every way, even socially, before I began consuming drugs, I easily overanalyzed, thought very inefficient, after this year of heavy cannabis use, my way of thinking became drastically better.
              I was able to simplify things in an more intelligent way, and then not overanalyze the subjects, and hence I became better of understanding concepts, people from other cultures etc, which made me become more empathic and I started to view things in an more alternative way I often came with good inputs on subjects when discussing things.
              I also became more critical to many aspects of the society, like drug policies, and other aspects within politics.
              My work performance became extremely much better because I was more observant at work, seeing the problems within the consumer electronics store I worked at and see the solutions, to admit, my boss liked me much more.

              Before this period my measured IQ was around 123 depended on the tests, I havent measured it after.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by RavFX View Post
                I made one really really interesting test with LSD (It was unexpected to):

                Heres the detail :
                I own a old PS2 v7 (I chipped it myself with a dms4) and I have a game called "GEOTRON" installed on his hard drive. Here a youtube like to see what kind of game is it : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6nwEEmlZv8 (It'S the only video I found)

                I used to play from time to time, In baseline or with some THC. THC did not change anything really.

                Baseline or THC :
                High score 235,670.
                Normal score : Between 100,000 and 150,000.
                Note that I played maybe hundred of times.

                I did not play that game for six months... And got to a friend and took small amount of LCD (It was my first and only time). We got some fun and I got home during the night, Got a good night/morning of sleep. In the afternoon, I was bored and I invited a friend of mine for normal geeking week end. My friend asked me some question about my new PS2 mods show I showed some of the new stuff I put on it and I decided to show the GEOTRON game and make a "small" game for demonstration, not expecting more than 100,000 score as I did not play for six months.

                Day after LCD
                Score : 1,005,550

                Yeah, I written the number correctly, I was playing.. gaining new live, not losing any of them, gaining new bombs (to clear screen) but not using -any- of them... I was thinking... "that's weird... something must be wrong.. maybe a PS2 glitch".. Still playing... The live line and bombs line was overlapping due to saturation.. Until... The score passed from 999,999 to 000,000.. So I decided to stop moving and firing.. and let me lose all my lives... The score saved correctly with the leading "1" before.

                So yeah, LCD do something... Since that I never got higher than my old high score (235,650) I'm currently thinking about retrying the experience. But I will need to install a tv tunner in the computer and record the epic game.

                High score 235,670.
                Normal score : Between 100,000 and 150,000.
                Day after LCD score : 1,005,550

                PS : Usually, after score 200,000, It's pratically impossible to move... The screen is so saturated...
                "GEOTRON" wow nice game

                and yes LSD multiply your mental power.

                i do the same drug testing in unreal tournament deck 16 my best results was always on drugs.

                your score on LSD 1,005,550 shows very impressive compared to your normal 200 000 score.

                maybe you should stop using THC and you should go for LSA for the daily use and LSD for the weekend usage.

                buts its proved many drugs are Nootropics this means its power up your brain.

                why do you write LCD instead of LSD ?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by roberth View Post
                  From my personal view after my experience with drugs, I support the case about drugs make you smarter, I used very heavy amounts of cannabis for a year, and I can confess that I became more intelligent, in every way, even socially, before I began consuming drugs, I easily overanalyzed, thought very inefficient, after this year of heavy cannabis use, my way of thinking became drastically better.
                  I was able to simplify things in an more intelligent way, and then not overanalyze the subjects, and hence I became better of understanding concepts, people from other cultures etc, which made me become more empathic and I started to view things in an more alternative way I often came with good inputs on subjects when discussing things.
                  I also became more critical to many aspects of the society, like drug policies, and other aspects within politics.
                  My work performance became extremely much better because I was more observant at work, seeing the problems within the consumer electronics store I worked at and see the solutions, to admit, my boss liked me much more.

                  Before this period my measured IQ was around 123 depended on the tests, I havent measured it after.
                  i think this kind of intelligence can not be measured in an IQ test.

                  but thats fore sure THC can make your social more compatible.

                  and in a social world this can bring you great benefit.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                    "GEOTRON" wow nice game

                    and yes LSD multiply your mental power.

                    i do the same drug testing in unreal tournament deck 16 my best results was always on drugs.

                    your score on LSD 1,005,550 shows very impressive compared to your normal 200 000 score.

                    maybe you should stop using THC and you should go for LSA for the daily use and LSD for the weekend usage.

                    buts its proved many drugs are Nootropics this means its power up your brain.

                    why do you write LCD instead of LSD ?
                    I write LCD instead of LSD because I just write LCD to much time so..

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                    • #40
                      Studies show that reading Qaridarium crap is usefull only 0,000001% of the time.

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                      • #41
                        I am between the 2 extremes

                        Most drugs are good and at least less worse than what the propaganda says. But because they are all forbidden, there comes new problems, the biggest Problems are that they get mixed with poisones stuff. And even if some of them are bad ( I would not take heroin...) its the decition of each adult to know what they wanna risk and what not.

                        Its unbelivable that we have one of the most adicting drugs out there for free nicotin, and also one of the most problematic and often asocial drug alkohol (aggressions) out there for free but forbid weed and speed.

                        You have to know how to use drugs, so you need to drink much water nearly with all drugs else you get health problems. But you can destroy your body also with bad consume of alkohol. So instead of drug-stopping-forbidding propaganda, we should make drug-use-teaching in schools. Not taking massiv drugs there, but giving information, like we now do with sex-teaching in schools to prevent early pregnantations. So sex is not the problem, but getting to early childs is, or getting aids or stuff, thats the same with drugs, prevent the problems but dont forbid the use. forbidding sex in early ages does not work and forbidding drugs (the ones that randomly are forbidden) does not work.

                        Weed 1. does nearly not make adicted, you dont need much more over time, no long real physical adiction and it prevents (not totaly and not all kinds of but at least some) cancer, so it is a good drug that should be used to help people to live through this shit world.

                        Also there are no big death rate by canabis consumers that they drive very fast and kill people or make much accidents, but if you drive with thc in the blood you loose your driver lisence, on alk that killed thausends of people with fast racing drivers you can drive 1 beer drunken and 20 bottles of vodka on your back seat. Thats so ill.

                        thc is surely not bad, but its a strong experience so I fear it a bit but also did not have access to it.


                        And yes it makes sense that smarter people use drugs, because they dont just believe all lies from goverments. They inform themselv and are really adult, but this, I live like my parent did live because it was this way always people are not adult because they follow 1:1 a pattern without question that.

                        There are some sick people who totaly go cracy when they take weed, but they are before they did take that mentaly ill, I think it would be testable if a person is so sick that he should not take weed. We should make such test like a driver lisence to prevent that people from going totaly nuts, but except them weed is a very good natural thing, that prevent cancer, except maybe for young consumers but after being 18 I dont see negative points in it.

                        The point is more that in our world you have to be very productive always and always super serios or you loose your job. the drug does not really fit in our world, but I think we should change our world instead of frobidding good drugs.

                        On the other hand, you can be very effective in working if you take mariuana, very creative and have fun by doing it, you can have better sex and more fun by eating or doing anything. So why not use it?
                        Last edited by blackiwid; 11-28-2011, 09:17 AM.

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                        • #42
                          Please, is it possible to ban Qaridarium and lock all his topics please ? All these posts are obvious trolls who shouldn't have their place here. The guy is a complete extremist :/ .

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Elyotna View Post
                            Please, is it possible to ban Qaridarium and lock all his topics please ? All these posts are obvious trolls who shouldn't have their place here. The guy is a complete extremist :/ .
                            He's a loon but why do you want to ban someone?

                            He's not hurting you posting his ridiculous ramblings so just don't read his posts. Problem solved.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Elyotna View Post
                              Please, is it possible to ban Qaridarium and lock all his topics please ? All these posts are obvious trolls who shouldn't have their place here. The guy is a complete extremist :/ .
                              do you mean me? Or the poster, I am not shure if he is completly right with his view, but fact is that the biggest problems with drugs is not the drugs (else we would have 90% dead germans each year because they used very hard ones (alkohol), but culture and quality of the drugs, and social probs that are not totaly generated by the drugs but our broken economic system that dont tolerate anything abnormal and punish it with homelessnes, I would not take at least from my current point of view take heroin but even that could be wrong to say or just oversecure, we have here in germany a saying that says " the dose is the poison ". We even give small children speed or something like that, to calm them down ^^ hyperactive kids. But also only because our system is changing we had in earlier times also hyperactive kids but we gave them no drugs, so you cant talk about drugs without talking about economic cultural context.

                              In japan housewifes take massive speed too. we also gave that some time to people who want to loose weight. In america weed was allowed also here in germany, we used it heavily for products and in war, then the cotton industry did not want to face that conpetition so they made a campain that mariana would make people cracy and would make out of people monsters who would murder people who stay next to them.

                              And the best thing is that most rich people who are often in media even that guys who say that drugs are bad and moralising that, take often to make that job cocaine, the drug for the rich because its so expensive.

                              So its a bit one sided post, but the current laws are also very extreme, they criminalize peaceful good people without a reason, and destroy their lives, if someone loose the driver lisense because of weed consum he also often looses his job and is then homeless and then maybe because of the need to survive he kills somebody. So we all live in authoritarian countris who is only a small peace of democracy left, but primary we are ruled by big companys and what they decide what is best for them.


                              In this culture you give people only the possibilty of total adaption remove all individualism because that punishes our system, or suicide. and drugs would be a 3rd opition, because with drugs maybe some people could manage our sick world better.
                              Last edited by blackiwid; 11-28-2011, 02:14 PM.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by ungoliant View Post
                                Studies show that reading Qaridarium crap is usefull only 0,000001% of the time.
                                maybe you should just follow your studies and stop reading my "crap"

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