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  • #31
    What a piece of dutch, when has Phoronix start discussing politics and self sensed superiority? Mr Q are you so bored and useless in real life that you need to brag about it on this forum? Go get a job would be better.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by FunkyRider View Post
      What a piece of dutch, when has Phoronix start discussing politics and self sensed superiority? Mr Q are you so bored and useless in real life that you need to brag about it on this forum? Go get a job would be better.
      Mr FunkyRider are you so bored and useless in real life that you need to blame others in this forum? Go get a job would be better!

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      • #33
        I've got an idea!

        Let's all spend time harping over a regime that lost a war and was disbanded 70 years ago, and just focus on the 50 or so die-hard fans spread out all over the world that they have left. I mean, it's not like there are any other groups of people currently in power that are worth spending our time and effort worrying about, and there certainly haven't been any genocides since that regime.

        Even better, let's continue to pick on Germany for it, even though now they are nothing like what they were then, and less than 1% of the people living there were actually born yet when all of that happened. At the same time, we can ignore all of the war mongering that other countries have been doing for the past 10 years, and just focus on those scary old Germans.

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        • #34
          Hmm

          Originally posted by leeenux View Post
          I've got an idea!

          Let's all spend time harping over a regime that lost a war and was disbanded 70 years ago, and just focus on the 50 or so die-hard fans spread out all over the world that they have left. I mean, it's not like there are any other groups of people currently in power that are worth spending our time and effort worrying about, and there certainly haven't been any genocides since that regime.

          Even better, let's continue to pick on Germany for it, even though now they are nothing like what they were then, and less than 1% of the people living there were actually born yet when all of that happened. At the same time, we can ignore all of the war mongering that other countries have been doing for the past 10 years, and just focus on those scary old Germans.
          I agree entirely, plus I like Germany (my mum is German), and there are some things that have happened in Asia that have been as bad as the Holocaust (in terms of deaths).

          However, with Q and Anonymous constantly spamming this forum with annoying crap either just being fucking annoying and full of bullshit, or trying to brag about Germany all the time, most people have no sympathy, but a fair amount of dislike for them, so when Q starts talking about Neo-Nazi's, while bragging about Germany (Have you read the stupid thread about Wind power, and the other one about Nuclear power that Q started?) its a natural reaction and topic to pull out.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by zeealpal View Post
            I agree entirely, plus I like Germany (my mum is German), and there are some things that have happened in Asia that have been as bad as the Holocaust (in terms of deaths).

            However, with Q and Anonymous constantly spamming this forum with annoying crap either just being fucking annoying and full of bullshit, or trying to brag about Germany all the time, most people have no sympathy, but a fair amount of dislike for them, so when Q starts talking about Neo-Nazi's, while bragging about Germany (Have you read the stupid thread about Wind power, and the other one about Nuclear power that Q started?) its a natural reaction and topic to pull out.
            Defend the German standpoint about Wind power and Nuclear power and Neo-Nazi's are spamming and bullshit ?

            And the others with only 1 clear message of germany is shit and is not free only they are against Neo-Nazi's and germany do have economical crisis and Germany is bankrupted and goes down is not spamming and is not bullshit?

            90%+ of the germans are against Neo-Nazis and against Nuclear power and the Germans really like Wind power and green energy this is not bullshit.

            and "brag" isn't the right word because no one can brag on real facts.

            I was ashamed for Germany a long time because they not always go the right way on the past for example the nuclear power plant life extension was fully irrational there is no point in extension the life time of bad old "fukushima" reactors.
            In fact in an rational world if you want nuclear power you build a new nuclear power plant with the best and most secure technique this means high temperature thorium reactor with an single pass system without dangerous reprocessing.
            to let run older nuclear power plants longer is totally irrational.

            There are many other examples about German rational failing for example the : "Abwrackprämie" trashing good cars only to have new ones are really brain-death and it only burns 5 billion euros.

            but right now the germans go the right way.

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            • #36
              Q: Little lesson on global economics;
              Though Germany's economy may be strong and seem to be stable, this is only because OTHER countries with whom they trade are so as well. Germany exports a lot of technology, i.e., cars, chainsaws, etc. -- their economy is strong because others are buying their exports. If the others who buy their exports collapse, then so will Germany, because they won't have anybody to export to.

              Germany is the world's second largest exporter (under China), and its primary export partners are France, U.S., Netherlands, U.K., Italy, Austria, China, and Switzerland. Exports account for NEARLY HALF of Germany's GDP. Look at those export partners!!!! I DARE you to tell me that if Europe collapses, it won't take Germany with it.

              It goes like this;
              Europe collapses.
              Germany is no longer able to export to the rest of europe, since they're all broke. GDP instantly drops by 1/3 and 1/3 of the labor force is suddenly unemployed. Next it falls apart internally -- with 1/3 of the workforce out of work, that's 1/3 of BUYERS within Germany who are suddenly not buying anything. Internal sales drop, more people become unemployed, sales drop even further.

              In fact, because of how massive the German economy depends on EXPORTS, Germany will be THE HARDEST HIT if Europe collapses.

              If you think that the US got it bad in their recession... their unemployment rate never exceeded 10%. If Europe collapses, Germany could have an unemployment rate of 50%+ virtually overnight. Remember what happened last time the German economy went to hell? Some clown showed up out of the wood works and made life miserable for a lot of people.... name was HITLER. Yeah, Germany has a BAD track record for dealing with economic problems.

              What is happening in Europe is scary. If things go bad, they have the potential to go bad in a REALLY bad way.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                Q: Little lesson on global economics;
                Though Germany's economy may be strong and seem to be stable, this is only because OTHER countries with whom they trade are so as well. Germany exports a lot of technology, i.e., cars, chainsaws, etc. -- their economy is strong because others are buying their exports. If the others who buy their exports collapse, then so will Germany, because they won't have anybody to export to.
                Germany is the world's second largest exporter (under China), and its primary export partners are France, U.S., Netherlands, U.K., Italy, Austria, China, and Switzerland. Exports account for NEARLY HALF of Germany's GDP. Look at those export partners!!!! I DARE you to tell me that if Europe collapses, it won't take Germany with it.
                It goes like this;
                Europe collapses.
                Germany is no longer able to export to the rest of europe, since they're all broke. GDP instantly drops by 1/3 and 1/3 of the labor force is suddenly unemployed. Next it falls apart internally -- with 1/3 of the workforce out of work, that's 1/3 of BUYERS within Germany who are suddenly not buying anything. Internal sales drop, more people become unemployed, sales drop even further.
                In fact, because of how massive the German economy depends on EXPORTS, Germany will be THE HARDEST HIT if Europe collapses.
                If you think that the US got it bad in their recession... their unemployment rate never exceeded 10%. If Europe collapses, Germany could have an unemployment rate of 50%+ virtually overnight. Remember what happened last time the German economy went to hell? Some clown showed up out of the wood works and made life miserable for a lot of people.... name was HITLER. Yeah, Germany has a BAD track record for dealing with economic problems.
                What is happening in Europe is scary. If things go bad, they have the potential to go bad in a REALLY bad way.
                in an global and European collapse there are always will be a winner and losers.

                right now Germany is the winner in the "collapsing" game.

                you can't show me any numbers against the fact that Germany is the WINNER in the crisis right now.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                  in an global and European collapse there are always will be a winner and losers.

                  right now Germany is the winner in the "collapsing" game.

                  you can't show me any numbers against the fact that Germany is the WINNER in the crisis right now.
                  Huh? The collapse hasn't even BEGUN yet.
                  The winner of an economic collapse is whoever has no direct or indirect dependency on those first to collapse.
                  The number that PROVES that germany will fall the furthest the FASTEST is 1.146 TRILLION. That's the ANNUAL EXPORT (in euros).

                  Congrats. Germany is going to get torn to shreds if/when europe collapses.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                    Huh? The collapse hasn't even BEGUN yet.
                    NOT?? i think it starts in the end of 2008 and on this time forward germany always win.

                    Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                    The winner of an economic collapse is whoever has no direct or indirect dependency on those first to collapse.
                    right now Germany shows as a winner in this "crisis"

                    Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                    The number that PROVES that germany will fall the furthest the FASTEST is 1.146 TRILLION. That's the ANNUAL EXPORT (in euros).
                    no its the prove that Germany is the winner right now! other countries drop down in export in this crisis.
                    in the same time germany grow up in export.

                    in fact germany win right now.
                    and your argument is a pure theoretical hypothetical argument. if and wen then yes THEN LOL...
                    i call it FUD and bullshit! there are NO REAL numbers show Germany fall.

                    Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                    Congrats. Germany is going to get torn to shreds if/when europe collapses.
                    you only make FUD with theoretical hypothetical bullshit.

                    in fact Germanys economy is well right now and in the future.

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                    • #40
                      Q: Do you have a brain? Or are you just reading German propaganda?

                      Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                      NOT?? i think it starts in the end of 2008 and on this time forward germany always win.
                      You seem to be confused. It started about 2008 IN THE UNITED STATES.
                      We are talking now about EUROPE.

                      right now Germany shows as a winner in this "crisis"
                      It has barely begun!!!!

                      no its the prove that Germany is the winner right now! other countries drop down in export in this crisis.
                      in the same time germany grow up in export.
                      You are always a winner, UNTIL YOU LOSE. Economic collapses happen in stages. Before exports slow, the economies of the export partners have to collapse. Then they don't have any money to buy German exports.

                      in fact germany win right now.
                      Not win, DELAYED FAILURE.

                      and your argument is a pure theoretical hypothetical argument.
                      In theory, if I stand outside, I will stick to the ground and not float away.

                      if and wen then yes THEN LOL...
                      i call it FUD and bullshit! there are NO REAL numbers show Germany fall.
                      As I said, the numbers will be fine UNTIL they ARE NO LONGER FINE. Your export partners are going to fall, and when they do, YOU will FOLLOW. There is no way out of this. If your export partners HAVE NO MONEY, then YOU WILL NOT EXPORT ANYTHING.

                      you only make FUD with theoretical hypothetical bullshit.
                      This is not FUD, this is not theoretical, this is not hypothetical. If the economy of europe fails, GERMANY WILL AS WELL. There is no getting out of it, and it is a FACT. Unless Germany can immediately change their export economy into something self sustaining, they will fail.

                      in fact Germanys economy is well right now and in the future.
                      Right now ONLY -- FOR now. If their export partners fail, so they will follow. FACT.

                      Think of it like this; If I make all my money selling things to YOU, and then one day you HAVE no money, HOW EXACTLY can I sell anything to you and make a profit? Either I need to find new customers, or change businesses. You can't sell anything to anyone who has no money!!!!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                        Q: Do you have a brain? Or are you just reading German propaganda?
                        You seem to be confused. It started about 2008 IN THE UNITED STATES.
                        We are talking now about EUROPE.
                        It has barely begun!!!!
                        You are always a winner, UNTIL YOU LOSE. Economic collapses happen in stages. Before exports slow, the economies of the export partners have to collapse. Then they don't have any money to buy German exports.
                        Not win, DELAYED FAILURE.
                        In theory, if I stand outside, I will stick to the ground and not float away.
                        As I said, the numbers will be fine UNTIL they ARE NO LONGER FINE. Your export partners are going to fall, and when they do, YOU will FOLLOW. There is no way out of this. If your export partners HAVE NO MONEY, then YOU WILL NOT EXPORT ANYTHING.
                        This is not FUD, this is not theoretical, this is not hypothetical. If the economy of europe fails, GERMANY WILL AS WELL. There is no getting out of it, and it is a FACT. Unless Germany can immediately change their export economy into something self sustaining, they will fail.
                        Right now ONLY -- FOR now. If their export partners fail, so they will follow. FACT.
                        Think of it like this; If I make all my money selling things to YOU, and then one day you HAVE no money, HOW EXACTLY can I sell anything to you and make a profit? Either I need to find new customers, or change businesses. You can't sell anything to anyone who has no money!!!!
                        you turn all upside down a win is a "DELAYED FAILURE" in your world.

                        in Fact the Reality is the exact opposite of your standpoint.

                        Germany will "DELAYED FAILURE" the next 100 years or maybe 1000 years.

                        will you start a world war 3 against Germany to make sure the FAILURE of the "DELAYED FAILURE" come true LOL...

                        you only do a "Self-fulfilling prophecy" if germany do not fail you start a war against germany to make germany fail just because of your "Self-fulfilling prophecy"

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                          you turn all upside down a win is a "DELAYED FAILURE" in your world.

                          in Fact the Reality is the exact opposite of your standpoint.

                          Germany will "DELAYED FAILURE" the next 100 years or maybe 1000 years.
                          Where are you coming up with this crap?

                          You are in an airplane over the alps. All the engines just ran out of fuel. You haven't crashed yet, but its just a matter of time before gravity pulls you into the mountains. There is nothing you can do to stop it. It isn't hundreds of years -- its minutes at best. Economic collapse happens a bit slower than a plane crash, so... months instead of minutes. You want to delay? Look what DELAY did to the US. They FAILED to delay, and they haven't climbed out of recession even after THREE YEARS!! Don't try to delay -- let it happen quickly and harshly, THEN climb out of it.

                          And as I said, the US recession is NOTHING compared to what Germany is faced with -- the US export partners didn't collapse, the US collapsed internally. The US unemployment rate never exceeded 10%. Germany is going to be destroyed economically from OUTSIDE. When their export partners can't afford to buy their exports, I guarantee that unemployment in Germany will make the US recession look like a picnic. When this time next year, HALF of everybody you know is OUT OF WORK, I promise to say "I told you so". Unless you are one of those 50%+ who end up out of work and can't pay your internet bill...

                          Delay it for 100 years? Nonsense. You can't delay the slowing of money coming in when it IS NOT COMING IN. What will happen will happen and it is TOTALLY outside of Germany's control. You can try boosting those economies, but that is a circular problem --> you're buying your own exports and giving it away for free. You can't sustain an economy like this!!! It doesn't work that way!

                          Germany gives money to X. X gives money back to Germany. Germany gives cars to X. Net transaction: Germany gives cars to X for free. How does that help your economy? Who is going to pay for these? I'll give you the answer: HIGHER TAXES!!!!

                          will you start a world war 3 against Germany to make sure the FAILURE of the "DELAYED FAILURE" come true LOL...
                          Huh? I'm not going to be the one starting the war. Germany is likely to do that themselves. That's what they did last time their economy went to hell.

                          you only do a "Self-fulfilling prophecy" if germany do not fail you start a war against germany to make germany fail just because of your "Self-fulfilling prophecy"
                          You are clearly insane. I'm not talking about self-fulfilling prophecies. I'm talking about repeating historical problems. Last time Germany's economy went down the crapper, they started the second world war. If europe collapses, Germany's economy WILL AGAIN fail. I hope that you don't do the same thing as you did last time. At least I know that Q won't be the next Hitler -- you aren't sufficiently articulate.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                            Where are you coming up with this crap?

                            You are in an airplane over the alps. All the engines just ran out of fuel. You haven't crashed yet, but its just a matter of time before gravity pulls you into the mountains. There is nothing you can do to stop it. It isn't hundreds of years -- its minutes at best. Economic collapse happens a bit slower than a plane crash, so... months instead of minutes. You want to delay? Look what DELAY did to the US. They FAILED to delay, and they haven't climbed out of recession even after THREE YEARS!! Don't try to delay -- let it happen quickly and harshly, THEN climb out of it.

                            And as I said, the US recession is NOTHING compared to what Germany is faced with -- the US export partners didn't collapse, the US collapsed internally. The US unemployment rate never exceeded 10%. Germany is going to be destroyed economically from OUTSIDE. When their export partners can't afford to buy their exports, I guarantee that unemployment in Germany will make the US recession look like a picnic. When this time next year, HALF of everybody you know is OUT OF WORK, I promise to say "I told you so". Unless you are one of those 50%+ who end up out of work and can't pay your internet bill...

                            Delay it for 100 years? Nonsense. You can't delay the slowing of money coming in when it IS NOT COMING IN. What will happen will happen and it is TOTALLY outside of Germany's control. You can try boosting those economies, but that is a circular problem --> you're buying your own exports and giving it away for free. You can't sustain an economy like this!!! It doesn't work that way!

                            Germany gives money to X. X gives money back to Germany. Germany gives cars to X. Net transaction: Germany gives cars to X for free. How does that help your economy? Who is going to pay for these? I'll give you the answer: HIGHER TAXES!!!!


                            Huh? I'm not going to be the one starting the war. Germany is likely to do that themselves. That's what they did last time their economy went to hell.


                            You are clearly insane. I'm not talking about self-fulfilling prophecies. I'm talking about repeating historical problems. Last time Germany's economy went down the crapper, they started the second world war. If europe collapses, Germany's economy WILL AGAIN fail. I hope that you don't do the same thing as you did last time. At least I know that Q won't be the next Hitler -- you aren't sufficiently articulate.
                            ì make it short for you to not waste time on you. You and Panix only do make "self-fulfilling prophecies" nothing more.

                            and yes your hate against the world and against germany are so high that you will start a war only to make sure germany will fail.

                            talking about a sure failure in the future is bullshit.

                            we talk again in the future if the failure is there in the present time and not a hypothetical and theoretical bullshit.

                            complete bullshit bingo don't waste your time and don't waste my time.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                              And as I said, the US recession is NOTHING compared to what Germany is faced with -- the US export partners didn't collapse, the US collapsed internally. The US unemployment rate never exceeded 10%. Germany is going to be destroyed economically from OUTSIDE. When their export partners can't afford to buy their exports, I guarantee that unemployment in Germany will make the US recession look like a picnic. When this time next year, HALF of everybody you know is OUT OF WORK, I promise to say "I told you so". Unless you are one of those 50%+ who end up out of work and can't pay your internet bill...
                              I might disagree with you here. If you're just saying that the situation in the U.S. is cyclical, then I'm say no, it's far worse. The U.S. is destroying their currency.

                              You can't sustain an economy like this!!! It doesn't work that way!

                              Huh? I'm not going to be the one starting the war. Germany is likely to do that themselves. That's what they did last time their economy went to hell.
                              Well, they went to war and that can't sustain an economy forever.

                              But, the other thing you said about sustaining via exports to countries is mostly right. But, they are bailing out countries and printing money for loans and this is one of the major reasons they are shooting themselves in the foot. They have bank-rolled the Money Changers and all these bailouts and loans is also taking its toll on the Euro (see the Fed with the American dollar) and since the EU is integrated with all these bankrupt or near-bankrupt countries, eventually the balloon will burst. What you didn't say but I will is that Germany doesn't seem to have any strong minds to criticize and rationalize anything. Germany is a country with NO freedoms or liberties. They have no critics, it seems, when it comes to the EU and the economy. The U.S. has people like Ron Paul. Britain at least has Nigel Farage. Who in Germany argues with the Elites and the German Politicians?!? No one that I have heard about.

                              Germans just assume these traitor politicians will solve all the problems. Surely, not all Germans can be as oblivious and clueless as Q is?!?

                              Q is like an alcoholic who has cases of beer in his basement, a beer fridge and empty bottles covering the entire floor but when you say 'You're an alcoholic', he replies with, 'NO I'M NOT!!!!!'

                              You are clearly insane. I'm not talking about self-fulfilling prophecies. I'm talking about repeating historical problems. Last time Germany's economy went down the crapper, they started the second world war. If europe collapses, Germany's economy WILL AGAIN fail. I hope that you don't do the same thing as you did last time. At least I know that Q won't be the next Hitler -- you aren't sufficiently articulate.
                              They're not self-fulfilling prophecies. It's common sense. You can't devalue your currency and spend forever. You can't print money continuously, indefinitely, forever and spend your way out of problems. There's nothing backing the currency. There are Elites profiting on the corruption, unethical actions and steering Germany and the rest of Europe towards a catastrophic collapse. The US is in for their own collapse and what is scary about this, is the number of countries in such bad shape. The fact many are all integrated in the mess and all these other countries depend on each other is what is most disconcerting. I believe there might be a few countries who may be self-sustaining such as China but even these countries' economies heavily rely on other ones hence why they are purchasing the debt of other countries. The mess with it so integrated and tied with each other is unprecedented, perhaps?

                              But, what is truly alarming about Germany, imho, is that people call them a democracy and they have probably some of the worst examples of it. Most so-called Western democracies are frauds but Germany has no principles or values for freedoms and liberties and at least Americans used to care about them. They have the Constitution but so many people are dumbed down and brainwashed that they might not care once things go REALLY BAD. These times might be known as the 'good times' before then. Too many people are really weak-minded and brainwashed then that the Elites might have a field day as they easily transform Germany into another police state. The U.S. and other countries, too. That's basically what happens when things go bad and there's resistance from the populace. The people are shocked at the changes and when they rebel, the corrupt, unethical politicians immediately resort to such tactics.
                              Last edited by Panix; 11-17-2011, 12:41 PM.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Panix View Post
                                democracy and they have probably some of the worst examples of it. Most so-called Western democracies are frauds but Germany has no principles or values for freedoms and liberties
                                Democracy != freedom
                                Democracy != liberty
                                Democracy != decision of the smartest
                                Democracy = mob,crowd,rabble,pack,herd,pride,horde,swarm
                                Democracy = the stupidest of the broadest masses
                                Mobocracy = Democracy
                                Liberty = Anarchism
                                Freedom = Anarchism


                                you just have no clue about the words you are using in your writings.

                                you just don't mean what you are writing you just don't write about democracy because democracy is a complete different kind of stuff than your point.

                                you want Anarchism the true one not the "evil"anormalism"fake anarchism"

                                in an 100% true Democracy the stupidest mob force you to be a slavery without any freedom!

                                but most people don't want true democracy they want decision of the smartest "bureaucracy"

                                also in a true Democracy there are no human rights if 51% vote to kill you then you are death in no time.

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