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  • Linux and Mac are screwed

    I just saw the Windows 8 interface
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p92QfWOw88I

  • #2
    I think it sucks. I don't want my computer to behave like a mobile phone.

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    • #3
      Looks like a big smartphone OS.

      Honestly only touch users/tablets are going to use that interface, even if it supports mouse/keyboard. And tablets are devices that are primarly used while sitting on the coach and watching TV, as recent studies have shown (maybe that's why I don't have one).

      I guess you weren't serious with the thread title in the first place, but no, Linux and Mac are definitly not screwed because of that thing.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by d2kx View Post
        Looks like a big smartphone OS.

        Honestly only touch users/tablets are going to use that interface, even if it supports mouse/keyboard. And tablets are devices that are primarly used while sitting on the coach and watching TV, as recent studies have shown (maybe that's why I don't have one).

        I guess you weren't serious with the thread title in the first place, but no, Linux and Mac are definitly not screwed because of that thing.
        Yeah, that stuff is only for touch related stuff, on a desktop one will quickly dump it.

        Anyway, Michal said a day or 2 ago there would be some major announcement and a big win for open source, time is up.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
          I just saw the Windows 8 interface
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p92QfWOw88I
          Haha wtf is this? In my opinion even gnome's hell is way better than this. Winphone 8 is screwed.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
            I just saw the Windows 8 interface
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p92QfWOw88I
            I don't know how you figure Mac and Linux is screwed. If anything the interface (if it was the only interface, a traditional desktop is still part of Windows 8) would be enough for a shitload of users to switch to a OS that does offer a more traditional desktop.

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            • #7
              My arm already hurts just from watching that. Do they also want to rename tennis elbow to win8 elbow?

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              • #8
                There are some cool/interesting ideas there, but I'm not really sold on it even as a tablet interface (for which it's obviously optimized). I think they're taking a risk changing the overall experience that much when the main draw of Windows is the ability to natively run Windows apps, many of which will never be updated at all, let alone changed to conform to the new UI concept. A couple times in the video he says something like "because it's a PC...", but this interface arguably makes more sense for the ARM port.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ex-Cyber View Post
                  "because it's a PC..."
                  Typical microsoftie winfaq. PC ≠ Windows. My PC runs Linux, he can go shoot himself or something.

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                  • #10
                    This is the most easy to understand interface on the planet. And for tablets this interface is a big win.

                    Of course on your PC you will soon discover the desktop tile.

                    PS: In fact, this is probably the first moronproof interface. This is not what I expected from MS at all... In fact I think this interface is brilliant.

                    Do note that I'm a big fan of KDE, so this isn't going to make my desktop!
                    Last edited by V!NCENT; 06-04-2011, 03:24 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                      PS: In fact, this is probably the first moronproof interface. This is not what I expected from MS at all... In fact I think this interface is brilliant.
                      It is about as "brilliant" as MS Bob wrapped around a duplo building bock gui. It's a kiosk UI and they have been around for decades.

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                      • #12
                        Vincent there is no such thing in this world, nothing is moronproof or idiotproof cuz they are always improving their idiocy, aka everyday they are more idiot than the previous

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jrch2k8 View Post
                          Vincent there is no such thing in this world, nothing is moronproof or idiotproof cuz they are always improving their idiocy, aka everyday they are more idiot than the previous
                          Imagine a couple of non-electronic utilities, objects, whatever. Everybody understands them. But as soon as it comes to electronics, nobody does. Stripping things down like Gnome isn't going to work, because it still requires a lot of time to learn how the file system is categorized, the user is exposed to adjustments like changing the square display grid to a popper grid (resolution) and a lot more of that bullshit. Why do people actually even get to see an freaking IRQ table at bootup? (BIOS) How is that useful to John the police officer, or Jane the clothing store owner?

                          But what do people actually want to do with a computer? Writing a text document? So why isn't it as simple as:
                          -Turning it on;
                          -Navigating computer functions by means of navigation your desk: with you eyes or sliding with a finger;
                          -Grabbing it (tap on it "I want to do... this!" *tap* ... and bam!");
                          -Turning it off with a button.

                          It's basically like:
                          -Click the ballpoint pen;
                          -Start writing where you want to write;
                          -Document written.

                          So yeah we know how to do all that shit, and yes most people may be stupid, but that's the most stupid way to make a computer work. Really, think about it for a second.

                          And no Apple and Gnome do suck when it comes to actual real usability.

                          I couldn't imagine a more true to life interface than Windows 8. I realy can't, sorry. I think it's dead brilliant. And I don't care if it's a kiosk interface that has been around for ages if this makes computers actually useful for people so that they stop coming to me with "How do I do this stupid simple thing?".

                          PS: I'm extremely convinced that Microsoft is going to be very, very, very succesful with this. They might even steal back some iCrapple converts. I'm also worried about Linux. This is going to take back marketshare.
                          Last edited by V!NCENT; 06-05-2011, 01:12 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                            Imagine a couple of non-electronic utilities, objects, whatever. Everybody understands them. But as soon as it comes to electronics, nobody does. Stripping things down like Gnome isn't going to work, because it still requires a lot of time to learn how the file system is categorized, the user is exposed to adjustments like changing the square display grid to a popper grid (resolution) and a lot more of that bullshit. Why do people actually even get to see an freaking IRQ table at bootup? (BIOS) How is that useful to John the police officer, or Jane the clothing store owner?

                            But what do people actually want to do with a computer? Writing a text document? So why isn't it as simple as:
                            -Turning it on;
                            -Navigating computer functions by means of navigation your desk: with you eyes or sliding with a finger;
                            -Grabbing it (tap on it "I want to do... this!" *tap* ... and bam!");
                            -Turning it off with a button.

                            It's basically like:
                            -Click the ballpoint pen;
                            -Start writing where you want to write;
                            -Document written.

                            So yeah we know how to do all that shit, and yes most people may be stupid, but that's the most stupid way to make a computer work. Really, think about it for a second.

                            And no Apple and Gnome do suck when it comes to actual real usability.

                            I couldn't imagine a more true to life interface than Windows 8. I realy can't, sorry. I think it's dead brilliant. And I don't care if it's a kiosk interface that has been around for ages if this makes computers actually useful for people so that they stop coming to me with "How do I do this stupid simple thing?".

                            PS: I'm extremely convinced that Microsoft is going to be very, very, very succesful with this. They might even steal back some iCrapple converts. I'm also worried about Linux. This is going to take back marketshare.

                            However in real life even the elderly have become accustomed to a standard desktop interface. All this has done is basically locked a end user into a set non-forgiving way of doing things. It will not, as you put it, prevent people from asking "How do I do this stupid simple thing?". If anything it is going to increase that question being asked as what people were used doing are now limited as to what they can do. We have all seen attempts at a dumbed down UI done many times before (remember the first EEE PC UI's, MS BOB, Splashtop, etc) there comes a point where it becomes it becomes too dumbed down for what a person wants to do on a computer. Kiosks UI's are fine for portable, set-top devices where a limited functionality is expected but a computers UI is expected to be able to do much more.
                            Last edited by deanjo; 06-05-2011, 01:47 PM.

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                            • #15
                              yeah, touch screens are sooo awesome. All those smudges and dirt... looks reaaaaallly cool and is sooo helpfull...

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