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  • #16
    Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
    Not to kick openSuSE lovers in the jewels, but what makes openSuSE so much different/better than Ubuntu, Debian or Fedora?

    SuSE was my first distro, but that's the only reason I've ever used it.
    Biggest reason by far is YaST. Quite simply it has a feature set that I have yet to see matched in any other distro. It also has by far the best refined implementation of KDE as well. With recent versions as well zypper meets or exceeds other package managers in pretty much every aspect including speed. There are also other nice little refinements such as not having to screw around with a bunch of command line just to get items like dmraid up and running (it is supported right from boot). There are bunch of other features but these are just a few items that make it stand out.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by deanjo View Post
      Biggest reason by far is YaST. Quite simply it has a feature set that I have yet to see matched in any other distro. It also has by far the best refined implementation of KDE as well.
      This.

      About zypper it's definitely good, however I think apt-get sports a tad more features.

      All in all, I'd still recommend (a mono-free) Ubuntu to brand new Linux users, however if you want a stable, clean OS with a set of powerful tools, definitely check openSUSE out.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by PsynoKhi0 View Post
        This.

        About zypper it's definitely good, however I think apt-get sports a tad more features.
        What feature does apt-get have that zypper doesn't presently have?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
          Not to kick openSuSE lovers in the jewels, but what makes openSuSE so much different/better than Ubuntu, Debian or Fedora?
          OpenSUSE doesn't fork something just because they don't like someone upstream.

          ref: glibc and cdrtools.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by yogi_berra View Post
            OpenSUSE doesn't fork something just because they don't like someone upstream.

            ref: glibc and cdrtools.
            Actually openSUSE uses wodim by default, it does however still have cdrtools on the repo and allows the user to decide.

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            • #21
              I do feel like that with Ubuntu there is a shitload of obscure duct tape in place, all over the place. But with Fedora all I have to do is boot up the USB stick, it installs in a few minutes. Everything works. Then enable RPMFusion from my webbrowser, type 'yum install update' and then 'yum install preload vlc rekonq yakuake k3b wine dkms' and later figure out what I forgot. Then custom downloading the latest VirtualBox and jMonkeySDK and setting KDE to accept my freaking analog sound card as default instead of the HDMI RadeonHD sound. Oh and maybe still PowePoint viewer 2003.

              Everything works like it should with the KDE spin including the blur with the Gallium3D driver.

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              • #22
                Trollface

                Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                Not to kick openSuSE lovers in the jewels, but what makes openSuSE so much different/better than Ubuntu, Debian or Fedora?

                SuSE was my first distro, but that's the only reason I've ever used it.
                The other reason to use SuSE is to support Microsoft, now that it has bought Novell.

                It's time for SuSE users to move to some Free such as Ubuntu, Debian or Fedora.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
                  The other reason to use SuSE is to support Microsoft, now that it has bought Novell.

                  It's time for SuSE users to move to some Free such as Ubuntu, Debian or Fedora.
                  Sorry, did I miss a memo ? When did Microsoft buy Novell ?

                  My understanding was that Attachmate bought Novell, then sold some of the Novell patents (but not the Unix ones) to CPTN, a consortium which seems to include Microsoft and some other major technology companies.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                    Not to kick openSuSE lovers in the jewels, but what makes openSuSE so much different/better than Ubuntu, Debian or Fedora?
                    Lack of MP3 support.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
                      The other reason to use SuSE is to support Microsoft, now that it has bought Novell.
                      Holy crap... openSUSE is a community project sponsored by novell. Of course that in turn they get to use software developed for openSUSE on their comercial OSes. How does that translate into supporting microsoft?

                      About the good points of openSUSE, number one is of course the green theme It's also one of the most solid and consistent distros I've tried. They also care about user bug reports and wishlists. They go to great lengths to improve upon the upstream desktop environments. The gnome customizations that openSUSE has are just amazing (version 2 at least; still haven't tried gnome 3). XFCE is also phenomenal and much more good looking than what ships with Xubuntu, which in turn is way better than pure xfce. KDE is also more polished than the upstream version and frequently backports important fixes and patches. On top of all that, software management is much better than anything else I've tried. And like deanjo said, YAST is one of the best pieces of free software around. Imagine a tool that let's you setup apache and postfix graphically (besides a lot of other network daemons). I also remember it was one of the first distros to support opening and saving microsoft office 2010 files.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                        Lack of MP3 support.
                        What? openSUSE has mp3 support. You even get prompted if you want to download the mp3 plugin upon first attempt.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                          What? openSUSE has mp3 support. You even get prompted if you want to download the mp3 plugin upon first attempt.
                          Oh yeah? Why doesn't it work then? All programs using SDL_mixer or SDL_sound for example, totally lack MP3 support.

                          Your idea of MP3 support is limited to some media players. MP3 isn't there for just music files. There's tons of other programs and libraries where MP3 has been ripped out from them.

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                          • #28
                            Trollface2

                            Originally posted by devius View Post
                            Holy crap... openSUSE is a community project sponsored by novell. Of course that in turn they get to use software developed for openSUSE on their comercial OSes. How does that translate into supporting microsoft?
                            Novell sold their patent portfolio to Microsoft. By supporting openSUSE, you support Novell, hence you support Microsoft. Simple.

                            Moreover, Mono. Just Mono. 'nough said.

                            About the good points of openSUSE, number one is of course the green theme It's also one of the most solid and consistent distros I've tried. They also care about user bug reports and wishlists. They go to great lengths to improve upon the upstream desktop environments. The gnome customizations that openSUSE has are just amazing (version 2 at least; still haven't tried gnome 3). XFCE is also phenomenal and much more good looking than what ships with Xubuntu, which in turn is way better than pure xfce. KDE is also more polished than the upstream version and frequently backports important fixes and patches. On top of all that, software management is much better than anything else I've tried. And like deanjo said, YAST is one of the best pieces of free software around. Imagine a tool that let's you setup apache and postfix graphically (besides a lot of other network daemons). I also remember it was one of the first distros to support opening and saving microsoft office 2010 files.
                            It's also consistently the slowest to boot and a pain to bring up in VirtualBox.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                              Oh yeah? Why doesn't it work then? All programs using SDL_mixer or SDL_sound for example, totally lack MP3 support.
                              Got an example app?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                                Oh yeah? Why doesn't it work then? All programs using SDL_mixer or SDL_sound for example, totally lack MP3 support.

                                Your idea of MP3 support is limited to some media players. MP3 isn't there for just music files. There's tons of other programs and libraries where MP3 has been ripped out from them.
                                BTW install the SDL_Sound library from packman.

                                http://packman.links2linux.org/package/sdl_sound

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