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  • Oracle's patches can be traps on Open Source projects

    Since Oracle has positioned as an open source enemy we need to watch out their patches for Open Source projects.
    I fear that their patches can create bugs on the projects in a way that they become to unstable in the future.
    In some time their Solaris will compete with our enterprise Linux distributions.
    Please, watch closely what they are doing, before we fall in traps that they can create.

  • #2
    Don't talk crap.

    Oracle have delivered and continue to deliver more open source than you have ever been able to, or will.

    They attacked Google over patents, which does not equal an attack on open source.

    Rethink.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by sabriah View Post
      Don't talk crap.

      Oracle have delivered and continue to deliver more open source than you have ever been able to, or will.

      They attacked Google over patents, which does not equal an attack on open source.

      Rethink.
      Open you eyes, before they show their fangs.
      OpenSolaris has gone.
      Now we can wait for what is comming next.

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      • #4
        You signed up just for trolling? :P

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        • #5
          Originally posted by RealNC View Post
          You signed up just for trolling? :P
          Yeap.

          Save this post and see it a few years latter and you should be able to see what I'm talking about.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by fernandoc1 View Post
            Yeap.

            Save this post and see it a few years latter and you should be able to see what I'm talking about.
            Read "Who writes Linux": http://www.linuxfoundation.org/node/4463

            You will see that Oracle is among the top ten contributors to Linux.

            Google, who quite possibly is the largest single Linux user of all, is on measly 20th place, at best.

            Oracle beats Google as a Linux open source contributor by a very wide margin, both in recent times and all time. So, from that perspective we don't need to save your post, but we sure should remember it.

            I have seen that others have argued the same things, Oracle is dangerous - http://blogs.computerworld.com/16766...ee_open_source

            But, Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols at least had some original arguments, not only rants.

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            • #7
              Here are some more perspectives from an anonymous comment at Groklaw (http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?m...9474#c870146):

              Google is in trouble here because they use neither patent grant. They are not using GPL'd implementation (based on OpenJDK), and they are not getting 3rd party license because it doesn't apply on mobile. Their only chances are to invalidate Oracle's patents or pay up and close down their Apache licensed Dalvik.
              The Groklaw blogger 'PJ' summarized in a subsequent reply in the same thread:

              But there is no doubt that if Google had used the GPLd code, this would not be happening.
              Please read the entire thread to get a better picture.

              While I am no Oracle fan by default, they may well have a case, and Google be a culprit. This is a tricky case and I sure don't know what to expect down the path.

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              • #8
                Oh, and Slashdot has an article on this too, with a link to an indepth article about it - http://infoworld.com/t/intellectual-...ious-evils-359

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                • #9
                  As a programmer, I know that a line of code can hide as many things as it wish.
                  Knowing this, and seeing what Oracle is doing in terms of Open Source, I think that we could not let Oracle do what they want in our projects.
                  They, for sure, will destroy many other open source projects, because now they own all Sun's projects, and they alone can rise an fully functional enterprise solution that can not live together with our enterprise linux solutions.
                  Watch out!

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                  • #10
                    So you're saying we should abandon Btrfs? :/

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by fernandoc1 View Post
                      As a programmer, I know that a line of code can hide as many things as it wish.
                      Knowing this, and seeing what Oracle is doing in terms of Open Source, I think that we could not let Oracle do what they want in our projects.
                      They, for sure, will destroy many other open source projects, because now they own all Sun's projects, and they alone can rise an fully functional enterprise solution that can not live together with our enterprise linux solutions.
                      Watch out!
                      Yes, watch out. As an expert I know that Oracle's own published linux distribution and contributions to the kernel could be murdering your children at any moment.
                      You have seen what they have done, e.g. defending their rights under the law, and this logically means they will be violating your rights next. I know this because I know code, and JUST one line of code can hide anything. Murder puppets, drugs or miseducation you name it.

                      They have already decided not to invest into a project that was neither famous nor making any money so they will knife Java because they don't like Jboss. All their investing into Glassfish is just a ruse. Fishes are deadly creatures Oracle is planting mindseed oh no they found mfyslkfjlsn...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by nanonyme View Post
                        So you're saying we should abandon Btrfs? :/
                        I'm not telling you to delete any line of code that came from Oracle, but to have special attention on it.
                        Test, see if there is something hidden, wait a little more until putting it on the stable branches, and verifying if it is leading to a dangerous design path.
                        That is only an warning about Oracle.
                        They are not good intentioned.
                        Larry Ellison seeks money and power, in a way that it should kill anything that is blocking his path.
                        This position as one of best open source contributor is what fears me.
                        We can't be Oracle dependent. All our projects need to get its own shape and walk with it's owns lags.
                        See here: http://www.x.org/wiki/SponsorshipPage
                        They are already controlling x.org sponsorship page. It can't be allowed!

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